For me, it doesn’t matter if you are Flat Dearth, Crate Her Earth, Hollow Hearth, Concave Bowl, or Dyson’s Fear, just as long as you aren’t about Globe Hell-anything.
FYI, I am now blogging at MachiavellianMan 2 @ substack as my original stack is inaccessible by me. I may try and retrieve all the emails from prior subscribers and export them to the new stack. Wayne Lusvardi
Comments post in my email. I click on the links and sometimes get GATEWAY ERROR 502 that means their servers have dementia. What is happening to you is what happened to me before I had to start Vaccinefraud 2. I lost access to that via email, then all of a sudden it disappeared without warning or explanation. 137 posts VAPORIZED.
If you can bring up your old Stack then save everything as a PDF offline.
Bilbo's Bitch substack was gutted as well, to many quotes from the Elders and much anti-shemitism. For thee it was Yow-Hu in Sino and the post on underground tunnels in cities to be blown sky high spoken of in the protocols.
I live on a hilltop with a seaside view to the south east. I follow stars and planets as shown i models, where planet movement are perfectly predictable according to the universe models. In the winter half of the year I see the sun rising up from the sea/horizon perfectly round in shape. It's no reason to believe that the sun comes sliding on the roof. The sun maintains it's perfectly round shape for the whole of its travel. The spinning ball from a visual perspektive is logical. I also cannot see Denmark from her, which is not that far away. I also worked with radio and electric stuff, and if it would be flat, some laser should be able to communicate quite easily, and it isn't. What people doesn't care to understand is that matter carries an electric and magnetic field. There is two fields, and I would argue that things like inertia and gravity are electric, not this relativety crap. Anyway, like a fish is submerged in water, everything on the Earth's surface is submerged in the earths fields, air, atmosphere, etc, whatever that is here. You are not sitting on top of a ball. You are submerged into it. We have kilometers with air pushing down on us. All of that would have to fly off as well with the electric field for anything to fly off the earth. Gravity is like a distillery or an oil refinery. Substance seperate in layers, heavy stuff at the bottom, light stuff on the top. We exist between soil and air. You cannot fall of. That's stupid. But the real killer for any flat earther is the carefully mapped out star sky. Show me a flat earth star map. You cannot do it. It doesn't work. I love Dave Weiss though. He is a funny guy. Flat earthers are like punkers. It's a competition about who dares to challenge reality more. Much like the psychosomatic alternative health people arguing that you can think your way out of every illness and change your reality by thinking about it. All of it is because society has failed.
?I follow stars and planets as shown i models, where planet movement are perfectly predictable according to the universe models.
Interesting that you would say the planets are perfect models when NO ONE has ever solved Newton's 3 body problem... That tends to make orbits impossible. This is the basic "universe model" that ALWAYS ends in chaos. I like to use the example of the ISS that that is only 14 seconds from face planting when it is in front of the ball's solar orbit. Does gravity know when to repel?
The classic rubber sheet physics 101 experiment where the bowling ball is centered and billiard balls orbit... what happens when the bowling ball is moved?
No, the planets are wandering stars...
Speaking of stars, are you familiar with Newton's inverse square law? Newton’s inverse square law makes any star more than a couple of light months distance is undetectable. Go ahead and pick any star and use the 8.3 light minutes AU our pretend sun is from the earth ball and whatever specs you want for “S”, the intensity, (the most generous stats for the sun's light is 98,000 lumens per square meter) and then figure what an 8 light minute distance (91.3 million miles) is over a year (180/day) X 365 days per year 67,525 then multiply by the number of light years to get the distance (r). You will be amazed, and remember the lowest detection is around 0.01 lumen.
Here is an example that calculates the radiance of the very biggest star, UY Scuti that is only 5,219 light years away by using our sun's square meter stats comes up to only 0.000000000000897154 lumens by the time it reaches the ball.
But you are correct that our earth is electric, but was never a ball.
Scandinavia is collapsing pushing people finding sense elsewhere (I hope). Pat is certainly far out, so anyone coming here has a sense of humor (I hope). I don't like Cliff High much. When I try to hear him out he looses me with his blabber. My favorite American is Eric Dollard. I will quote his words from a recent live call: when the bulk of the population believes that NASA faked the solar eclipse then there is no more hope for communicating with humans.
Dennis Fetcho is one of my main stay other great teachers.. I even visited him twice in Jordan - even brough the poor guy some bacon.. He is stellar in behind the scenes "how it works out there"..
Cliff talk too much and says too little. I was really interested in his computer program to interpret language to predict the future, but obviously he doesn't as far as I know really give any of that away. I would like to know how he does it and the reasoning behind. I wish he wrote a book. Then I could scan through his long babble.
Honestly - I never liked the guy untill in 2021 when he began to use substack.. The real turning point for me was when he periodically begain making mp3-audio output on substack witch made me actually listen through his message..
The yt-vids I never listened even one of his from start to finish.. He lost me every time in the video format..
He has explained many times how he built it from scratch..
Though.. It is a data array gathering project swooping up hilarious amount of text input from blogs and social media including meta-data linked to the text files..
Then he catalogues it and the level of handling data in those quantaties is mind boggling..
He used some 4-6 years to build it up and he has refined it for 20 years since..
He is a self proclaimed autodidact in most everything he ventures and his expertice in programming leaned towards fixing meta structers of hyper networks of global proportions..
So his program expertice seems way up there..
His thing is: He has an equal intrest compared to hyper meta layers of programming in the area of archeo-linguistics..
Quite many of Clif's early interviews in the 2000's on coast to coast and rens + redice etc focused on interviewing him on the language forecast tool..
There is a meta site "Clif High Videos" that has links to much of these programs..
Ole. It's funny to hear you say exactly what is in my mind (a man screaming in a straightjacket) when I listen to Cliff. I have to put most videos on 1.5X or higher and even then you can't float the turds to the top quick enough.
I'm not interested in the future or predicting it when it was all scripted in the bible, the Protocols, and Silent We Upons for Quiet Whars. They laid out their Plan millennia ago. The rest is just details. That's my biggest beef with High. No actionable information.
I worked in high tech. Most of what we were doing in the civilian sector was 10-50 years behind the military.
50 Years is the difference between eclipses being the thing that Columbus wowed the natives with by mere prediction of occurrance and actually developing the method for doing it.
Arthur Clarke said that sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguisable from magic.
I'm curious if you have ever given thought that this is an electric universe. Our thought are electric impulses. Maybe it's not flat OR ball? Maybe it's not physical, but metaphysical?
Is the carefully mapped out lightshow in the sky, simply a hologram?
when you look thru a telescope ... the stars dance around like squiggly lines. Are they gasses?
Makes sense according to your dissertation of heavy stuff at bottom & light stuff at top.
Sure, why not? I have always wanted to be a magician and change stuff, but I cannot. Maybe our brains are antennas in a field of infinite possibilities, but I don't see any use of this theories. I have this game, and I must play it with what I have. I am sure the moon can also be a cheese, why not? Prove me wrong!! In my reality I see no hologram. I just see stuff and people.
Fair enough. I asked. I'm totally on board with brains being antennas into the field. I've seen some studies that lean heavily into proving that theory.
I do tarot card readings. It's the weirdest thing ever. I have no idea why, but it works every time. It's like someone is making fun of me. Should I not eat my dinner because I don't know how my body digest the food? I think the last sentence comes from Oliver Heaviside when discussing the nature of electricity.
The SS knew this and used the women of the vril ....they had very long hair and had psychic powers.
The Nazis made a branch of study dedicated to tye occult and their technological advances were PHENOMENAL in such short time. Antartica trips were probaby made to find the passage from this place called "earth" to the bigger planet....we see reflected on the esosphere that we call the moon.
C'mon people why do you think all 185 countries are suddenly in hamony and agreement about Space & Antarctica????
You are correct because NASA was created by an SS scientist. The women completely disappeared after WW2. Also lets remember how important hair are in cultures all over earth including our own. Native Americans ….Chinese...
Why Ms. Wallace thinks the hair on our arms?? is she thinking may be how hair straighten up?? I have met people without body hair. Hair of our head are important it cannot be just a cosmetic thingy.
I'm totally on board with THAT! It factors in with this place being a machine & electrical in nature, Absolutely! All the words we use to explain computer language all lines up Daemon error code, nodes, processing, etc etc.
I was thinking in terms of thoughts being holographic. That then gets into quantum physics. Your favorite 4 letter word.... MATH. Math has been corrupted since 4ever so I guess we go back to alchemy. Alchemy in it's witchiest form uses electricity. Charge & Volts. It makes sense in my head.
Except the part of a physical universe. That makes me wonder IF that's all inside our heads. Alchemical charges? For me, it goes back to universe inside of us. Metaphysical & not physical.
Electrical synopsis firing in the mind, feels like the true electric universe.
I love all your points because it makes me ponder more deeply. We can't take the words of physicists...they change their math to suit their needs. Common core? 2+2=5.=confusion. Fusion in the mind of CON.
I did not know there are THREE types of vibration. .THEY claim that things are vibrating so fast that they appear solid. I can't warp my mind around THAT.
Radio, frequency bands & tuning in causing perception...I can get that. The 3rd ....... I. need to look into that. Thanx :)
molecules exhibit rotational, translational, and vibrator motion.
To focus just on vibes is infantile. But that is how gurus get a following. If you aren't talking about all three then smaller minds glom onto what makes them feel good (doesn't have to be real or make sense) and then they build up a following over frequency/vibration.
PAIN is the only thing that damns stuff to Reality.
Unless we are single neurons welded to a wheelie cart and thus bumping up against an obstacle in a Yahoody Rat Maze causes the input that is CODED as pain, then the world is physical reality for me.
So, To TAME the PAIN molecules is to get out of being damned to HELL.
THAT, I can relate to...loud & clear!
That's EXACTLY WHY I question WHY they gave us CNS feelers!
They keep us in pain so we easily accept being put down further into the virtual reality machine. Gimme a headset & dope us up so we don't have to FEEL. THAT is where I see this going. The old problem, reaction, solution gig?
Is this still a fool moon faze? because you are I Love Lucid.
That is exactly it.
I was in AGONY for decades. Most people around me didn't seem to be affected. But then I started to see their drawers where they keep the scissors and can openers and stuff they buy off of TV but never use along with their PAIN KILLERS and then I realized, they're probably just as bad as everyone else but the photodeveloping chemical that is used to destroy your liver (Tylenol) probably works for them. NO drug ever worked for me because...
my LIVER WAS BAD.
So I would watch these goons go on business as usual, self-doped but then the other shoe of the octopus drops and they've all had major health meltdowns while I continue to improve.
Have you heard of Human design Astrology? It uses a flat earth model star map birth placement. It is more accurate and detailed than other astrology. I will show you how the stars are not even stars, they only exist as a reflection off of the moon projection of our planet that somehow appears to us as a sort of negative x ray. The star constellations are all moon terrain variances. I can match anything in the night sky to its origin on the viewable moon surface using a star map and a lunar map. The overlay is quite revealing. Yes even the so called planets are merely moon surface features. We live in a crater on a massive planet and there is water just outside of our plane we call earth. Our verbiage reveals all of this has been known since the appearance of the english words used to describe them. As much as your logic makes sense, Im here to tell you that surprisingly it does not apply in this case. I will show you what Im talking about. Ive never composed a video before but im working on my first detailing how to use this method for yourself to explore the stars and their origin which is actually our much larger home planet . There is only darkness without the projection.
On Rumble he has the video collection and is active as well. The stuff Im speaking of is likely part of the missing puzzle for him. He was on the track with matching the crab nebula to the moon surface. Ive just figured out how to accurately and without doubt find any and all star related locations on the lunar surface. Its mathmatical and simple. Also could be prone to altering our viewing of it if we dont produce the analog version to use without interference of an online host.
I do. The sillyass ball is scientifically impossible. I have 3 facts that destroy the ball that no one can refute and "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, stated by Sherlock Holmes.
Fact 1: Higher pressure gas always expands to fill the lower pressure volume (Boyle’s gas law).
Fact 2: the only way to keep gas from expanding to fill the lower pressure volume is to keep it in a physical, airtight container. Boyle’s law always works unless there is a physical barrier.
Fact 3: no one in history has ever shown gravity preventing gas from expanding to fill the volume, NO ONE. What should be the very first page in any science primer that pushes the heliocentric model is sorely missing, because it cannot exist. It has been over 336 years since Newton published his unfinished theory of gravity; there has been ample time to come up with, at least one empirical example that shows gravity defying scientific law.
Fact 4: when these facts are presented, most thinking people can connect the dots and realize that if the ball model is surrounded by an infinite volume of super low pressure, infinite volume of fake space and with no physical container and FACT 3, that no one in history has ever demonstrated a single condition where gravity can defy Boyle’s gas law, those thinking people would realize that it is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the ball to have air.
A) It should be apparent ball must equalize with the fake space ambient emptiness of 2 hydrogen atoms per cubic meter on the ball's surface in the same way when you slash a tire and the contained high pressure instantly expands to fill the ambient volume until the inside of the tire equalizes with the ambient air pressure outside, except that the ball would never have air in the first place, because it is devoid of an airtight container like the tire before the empirical tire slashing experiment.
B) The usual ball believer reply is, "If there is a container/dome the pressure would equalize but, we have a graduated air pressure."
C) This always ignores the facts that show because there is no possible scientific way for the ball to have air in the first place, therefore graduated air pressure is also as impossible, (see facts 1,2,3).
D) Here is an example showing how wrong the notion of always an equalized pressure in a container when one considers: A vertical container is 1 mile tall, erected at sea level. The container is open at both ends so it maintains exactly the same recognized ambient pressures of 14.7 psi on the bottom and 12 psi on the top exactly like our actual sir pressure. Then this container is sealed.
Question: Does the pressure magically equalize inside the container?
E) No, it remains the same, however when a vacuum pump attach that mimics fake space's super low pressure, THEN this container eventually equalizes at such a low pressure becomes unsuitable for breathing..
F) It is a fact that it is impossible to break scientific law. Anything that works follows scientific law.
G) Apparently example D is not comprehended by the proud illiterate ball suckers because they then quote the "pressure decreases with altitude" scripture, purposely overlooking Sections A-D proclaiming that this obvious fact supports gravity and imagine that this obvious, empiric fact somehow makes Boyle incorrect, but only shows complete ignorance and lack of reading comprehension. They still postulate that a sealed container must have equal pressure throughout because gas will expand to fill the volume.
H) The reason gas stops expanding under the dome/covering is because there is no lower pressure for gas to expand into, like the infinite super low pressure volume of fake space for instance... Boyle's law observes that gas always expands to fill the volume of a container unless the container IS SO LARGE THAT A DENSITY GRADIENT BECOMES SIGNIFICANT (as pointed out in section “D”). This is why we actually have a graduated pressure instead of having an exceptionally low pressure that matches fake space specs of only 2 hydrogen atoms per cubic meter on our surface. There is no reason, because the heliocentric model’s god “gravity” has never shown an ability to prevent gas in any way from following the gas law and any gas at a higher pressure than fake space would always dissipate into the pretend universe.
I) Here is a low cost empiric experiment anyone can do to prove Boyle: Simply inhale. This creates a lower pressure in your lungs and the higher ambient pressure air rushes in to fill the volume. Anyone can do this on the surface where "gravity" is strongest, which is fortunate. Thankfully gravity is helpless to keep gas from expanding to fill the lower pressure volume every time, which allows you to breathe. (Scientific note: There is no equipment that can match fake space super low pressure, but you could spend some time in a vacuum chamber to notice the difference in your ability to use Boyle’s law to breathe. Your lungs would probably just invert at the nearly similar low pressure conditions of fake space.)
J) Air at the proper pressure is very important as illustrated by section I). Because of Fact 3, there is ABSOLUTELY no proof EVER for the unfounded belief that gravity is an airtight container that keeps gas from expanding to fill the infinite volume of fake space, as pointed out in Fact 1, so w/o creating any answer for Fact 2, one must logically agree to agree that Fact 4 is correct. Sadly, section K) explains the steadfast ball belief in the impossible.
K) Gravity is much like a super god featured in any faith based religions because it is invisible and only works in heaven, out of sight, where it defies science supernaturally. All religions and con games have this faith component in common: one must believe and have faith that a higher authority holds the knowledge of things you can’t explain, that defy logic and scientific law.
I found a couple of videos that explain vector adding that enhance the problem with the airless spinning ball... He goes especially slow because he is directing this at those who believe...
Why is the ball promoted? I can think of 3 reasons. First, it is the joke that never gets old, second it is a quick and easy idiot test to see if we are still gullible enough to fall for the next made fro TV scare, and lastly because it keeps the lands beyond the wall hidden.
There is more but this is basic enough and most can connect the dots..
What in your theory holds the air to the earth? Are you saying that the air pressure must mean that we live in a container? What is to you the fact of falling objects? Why do you fall down?
I LOVE the classic physics explanation to that, that we are not falling but the earth is rising up underneath us. I've had the earth rise up under me while sliding off a roof. I guess I wasn't sliding DOWN the roof the roof was sliding up me.
Planes shouldn't be able to fly in a gravitational reference frame like that except the other laughable classic physics explanation is that the atmosphere is a monolith that moves with the 3 vector motion of the planet.
Like Steve said, these are all just religious made-up distractions when their pants have been documented as the earth rising up towards their belt lines. Pants can no longer fall down according to the newest explanation of grabbity.
>hat in your theory holds the air to the earth? Are you saying that the air pressure must mean that we live in a container?
Did you find something I wrote to be in error? It is not a theory as I cited empirical science. The facts are that if we lived on a spinning ball, that had no means of containing air, surrounded by an infinite of super low pressure that the surface would equalize with that of fake space.
Every previous civilization knew about the dome so yes, we must have an airtight cover or you are a bot that has no med for air.
>What is to you the fact of falling objects? Why do you fall down?
The air is positively charged, the ground is negative. A natural downward flow is achieved.. Density is why things fall buoyancy is why things defy gravity. and electromagnetic force is 10 to the 14 times of magnitude more powerful than gravity. Pne can defy fake gravity electrically...
Read the whole comment. Feel free to rebuff anything here, I did for the exclusive ball belief, but please reference your disagreement first instead of assuming that I broke scientific law w/o showing my error. Quote my misinformation with your explanation, I welcome it but doubt you have anything logical or scientific that refutes scientific fact. Belief, no matter how much you believe, is not logical or scientific proof unless there is some empirical evidence to support it. Speculation and conjecture are theory not law.
I would say that I wrote the first comment and could complain that you made no effort to create a flat earth star map that work. Or rebuff any of my statements. Maybe I can post a video of the sunrise from my house, then you can explain to me where it comes from?
>I would say that I wrote the first comment and could complain that you made no effort to create a flat earth star map that work.
Everyone uses a flat map. Aviation - Mechanical air flight assumes a flat, non-rotating Earth
Stars haven't changed for thousands of years... Which should not be possible with the insane speeds... On thin note, have you ever seen Newton's inverse square law?
Newton's Inverse Square Law trashes the heliocentric model
Calculating the radiance of the very biggest star, UY Scuti that is only 5,219 light years away by using our sun's square meter stats. The fake heliocentric AU for our sun at 8.3 light minutes away and the most generous stats for the sun's light is 98,000 lumens per square meter (this is the maximum as seen on earth but you could add what ever you want and Scuti will still be undetectable...)
Calculate how many light minutes in 5,219 light years (2743106400 minutes) and divided the answer by 8.3 light minutes making the actual difference in distance (the "d" in the inverse square formula) to be d=330,506,222.5 which makes the light level only 0.000000000000897154 lumens.
>Or rebuff any of my statements. Maybe I can post a video of the sunrise from my house, then you can explain to me where it comes from?
I understand how humans see which you should have learned in elementary school, called perspective. It limits how far we can see. Remember the railroad tracks going to the vanishing point?
Silly you that imagines that having your ignorance explained is more important than having air in your silly ball model.
At the least, tell me how you can refute fact 3.
You can't and that is the linchpin of your model. The ball has NO AIR!!!
Face it, you have no argument or rebuttal, so you are truly the fool on the hill.
I'm no expert on neither Boyle's gas laws, nor newton math. I just look out my window on what I can see on the sky. I think there is a lot of holes in science. I know some problems with the theory of light, because I studied electricity. The theory of gravity is problematic. All of this can be faulty. The sky is real, and I have never seen the southern cross. Many zodiacs I have never seen. Why? They are on different places around the earth. It's an observable phenomenon. I think you should turn off the computer sometimes and go stargazing. It will be good for you. The earth rotates inside something that looks like the inside of another ball painted with stars. Pluss the movements of the planets. You can go look at it yourself. It's kindergarten stuff! That's how people figured out that the earth is round hundreds of years ago. There are plenty of mysteries to figure out, but everyone can look at stars. Then you can travel to the southern hemisphere and look at the sky there. No math required, just eyes and a star map. Just watch the sun rise from the sea.
Good night to everyone! Im seeing a beautiful moon in the east, perfectly round low down in the sky. It's not sitting in no roof. I'm done for today.
>I just look out my window on what I can see on the sky.
Do you notice that the ocean is flat? Left to right there is no curve. Ever watch a ship go over the horizon with the unaided eye then pull out some decent binoculars and pull it back over miles of curved water?
Focus dude. You did not refute FACT 3 with anything you wrote and refuting fact 3 is the most important and really the only argument you must make but, you have failed as usual and as expected. Is there a reason you lack basic understanding, logical reasoning, and fail to understand this problem, other than some monetary reason? Being paid to lie is more respectable than actually believing that the earth is a scientifically impossible airless ball, because that belief is just plain stupid.
>You can go look at it yourself. It's kindergarten stuff!
That is why it is called indoctrination. No one develops skepticism at that age. The kids that didn't listen to authority figures were eaten or run the hell over so we are inclined to believe there teachers that tell us that in old times they believed the earth was flat...In fact ALL previous civilizations knew about the flat earth and dome, but these geezers were ignorant you don't want to be ignorant... So early on we were trained to giggle at those that questioned the absurdity or how water stays on the ball.
>That's how people figured out that the earth is round hundreds of years ago.
Nope, all previous civilizations knew better.
You are skirting the impossible problem with the silly ball and purely distracting. Pick any of the facts and refute it or go away because you have nothing intelligent to say.
Can you disprove that high pressures always expand into a lower pressure? When you breathe your lungs create a lower pressure and the higher pressure rushes in., Weather maps show high pressures rushing into lower pressures. Are you seeing the pattern?
Probably not, you are especially lame.
The only way to keep a higher pressure from expanding into a lower pressure is to keep it in an airtight container. Do you know of a any physical way to by pass this step?
Nope
Are you the first person in history to show gravity preventing gas from expanding into a lower pressure?
No.
>There are plenty of mysteries to figure out, but everyone can look at stars.
I realize that math is not your forte like the inverse square law, you, it proves that the stars you see are much closer than portrayed in fake space,
Have you ever seen "stars in a jar"? It is called sonoluminescence using ultrasound The ancients described the dome as the waters above. Itt is way more scientific than stars no one could ever see because of impossible distances.
Still you are too incompetent to even show one single proof the ball has air. You did not refute FACT 3 with anything you wrote and refuting fact 3 is the most important and really the only argument you must make but, you have failed as usual and as expected. Is there a reason you lack basic understanding, logical reasoning, and fail to understand this problem, other than some monetary reason? Being paid to lie is more respectable than actually believing that the earth is a scientifically impossible airless ball, because that belief is just plain stupid.
Being allergic to Math so that I carry an epipen everywhere I go in case I'm exposed to numbers, I would never attempt a star map either flat or projected as polar coordinates.
That being said the flat earth map explains perfectly commercial flight paths that make ZERO sense on a globe. So whereas flat earth was literally SUPPRESSED for millennia with the same kind of inculcation (abusing people until they believe or at least recite the party line) that is seen during Flat/Globe 'contests' to this very day, then the sparsity of those who maintain we must be in a flat non-rotating earth like the military ballistic manuals state, who would also NEED mathematic skills to produce the charts that are called for are too few or just simply not there.
The Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence.
The controllers WITH MATH come up with elaborate explanations for the way that things are and actually programmed those calculations into star projectors for planetariums with lens optics.
AFTER FUKASHIMA where there was an earth shift that even the Inuit noticed, all of a sudden the ancient optic projectors were replaced by equally sudden grant money to install DIGITAL PROJECTORS to compensate for the fact that the sky ain't what it used to be.
Given that we know less about this planet than the fake Hubble or Webb fakes about distant exoplanets... I would say that looking up is a waste of time unless it gets us past the barrier to that limitless land to escape from the Insane 3 Clans that are gatekeeping ALL of the info on EVERYTHING.
The commercial flight path argument is the worst argument for flat earth. It actually argues that the earth is a globe. The flight paths are routinely shown on a map that everybody agrees is incorrect. If you do a comparison to debunk the globe you must show the flight paths on a globe, not the traditional flat world map with its inherent compromise of trying to flatten a sphere. Then it will make sense. Add in that the flat earthers wants to fly over the big ocean where no emergency option exist and everybody in the plane is doomed to sink into the ocean for minor emergencies. If you fly over land you can land somewhere. The earth must not be flat just because the airplane companies needs an emergency option. Again, it's kindergarten stuff. It's not difficult. And if you argue it's all fake, we can still talk about the nature of the illusion. It's a round illusion. Not flat.
Among my favorites is that the air acts as a singular mass so that it moves with the spinning ball so that when you get airborne you do not hover while the spinning earth careens madly underneath you. But the atmosphere is made of many gasses from hydrogen that DOES DEFY GRABBITY and now NASA says that there is a hydrogen cloud that envelopes the moon, to Argon that sticks to the ground.
Duddn't seem to be moving as a singular mass.
Another favorite is: If we keep losing hydrogen like a leaking tire (to space) then where does all of the new hydrogen come from? I know the answer I just like the seal to earn their fish.
Same applies to nitrogen that is a tiny bit less "Escape from New York" than hydrogen.
What you are doing, Steven, is citing the accepted canon and then firing that cannon back at those who claim that it is foundational. But once that cannon misfires and the ball lands outside the barrel then they scramble to make up a new explanation of how or WHY the cannon ball was MEANT to land outside the barrel. All of a sudden it's Refraction this, and Refraction that. Light itself that moves in straight lines also bends across the curve of the earth because, well, gravity well.
Foucalt's Pendulum is a shitshow fakery that is run by a motor. Once these parlor trick LIES are exposed I can't spent another second dealing with the old or the new shit.
You are assuming that ball suckers understand basic physics. Note how the "fool on the hill" only has mindless distraction as his argument.
I did mention that a thinking person is required to connect the dots... So as far as MMA, ball suckers are attempting to fight outside of the octagon against straw opponents as I watch smugly, safe inside the cage, in my recliner.
Flat Dearther: Today we will discuss only water seeking level.
Glow Ball List: Oh LOOK! a kitten playing piano!
There are some pretty high level flat earth destroyers out there but they ALL use math. Figures never lie but liars sure can figure.
I'm waiting for creative repeats of the canal experiment where you can see past the curve while on a manmade body of water.
REFRACTION!
One fellow wanted crowd funding to do a fence in the desert set up with perpendiculars and levels to show no curve.
NO FANCY MATH just simple geometry and physics.
I think that Math besides being an allergen and a 4-letter word is the downfall of ALL rational inquiry. I think it was set up as Spellwork for that specific reason. I think this because I have hated math all of my life.
So when you say: Flat Water,
Then they say: Miniscus!!!!
But a miniscus happens ONLY INSIDE A CONTAINER.
It would have to be some wet and sticky water to cover a spinning ball in vacuum, or maybe during freefall it might stick in a CLOSED CABIN IN A VOMIT COMET WITH AIR, but then try the free fall trick in a vacuum....
Yep. I found out early on from a couple of near death experiences that air is damn important. Because it is impossible for the silly ball model to have air and assuming that everyone has a brush with a bit of oxygen starvation, that it would give ball suckers pause when the airless ball was exposed.
I am rethinking this approach because, like the fool on the hill admits that understanding Boyle's law is out of his wheelhouse, along with math, physics and understanding what he observes, that some of the devotees are really that stupid that lack an opened mind to address..
I have asked an unnamed post graduate, major college, physics professor to debunk Boyle (well, I was a tad deceitful, posing as a helpless person arguing with newly converted flat earth enthusiasts who used Boyle as their proof )
His proofs were the ISS and the usual garbage which"their" arguments were enough and insisted that Boyle had me stumped. so he eventually wrote, “I'm now going to go teach graduate students real science, so I wish you luck. If I find the specific answer to your very specific question, I'll send it along.” Professor XXXX
He understood checkmate, but those sad little indoctrinated and physics illiterate types desperately ignore the airless ball. Yes I realized that there are paid shills and programmed AI bots that make up the majority of those that can't connect dots,
It seems so obvious to me as I try to write so a 4th grade lobotomized school girl could follow, when this fails, generally, I start accurately describing the mindless sorts in descriptive language.
FB calls me a bully...
The killer fact is fact 3. No proof that gravity does shit,,, . The following is ball believer’s exclusive answer for maintaining air on the ball w/o a physical cover while the ball is surrounded by an infinite volume of super low pressure space: The earth ball keeps its air because… GRAVITY.
Sadly gravity is much like a super god featured in any faith based religions because it is invisible and only works in heaven, out of sight, where it defies science supernaturally. All religions and con games have this faith component in common: one must believe and have faith that a higher authority holds the knowledge of things you can’t explain, that defy logic and scientific law.
I can't argue successfully against a false god believer mindless devotion.
The Argus, Starfish, Fishbowl (that's the best) FAKE daytonations of Nooks (nooks CAN'T dey tone ate) were attempts at getting through the star trek force field called the Van Allen Belts that Van Allen later downgraded to just annoying not deadly.
They wipe their asses, sniff it, lick it and then declare it "Not Shit!".
Keeling said that we are LOSING OXYGEN from the atmosphere. He might have even cited the UNHEALED openings in the ELECTRICAL universe firmament without ever daring to use those words.
I can't imagine the kind of pathlogy that would make a creature try to destroy it's own environment in a attempt to escape so that it could infect another environment with its insanity.
The A.I. fights me even with my own databases. I have a video that shows a closed cylindrical container where they levitate a fluid above an open surface with just sound. When I find it I will post it.
The key being the Separation of Chuch and State ---- wait! I mean firmament from atmosphere IN A CLOSED SYSTEM.
Open the system and call the Janitor!
Try the same thing in NASA's massive vacuum chamber and you can't all the Janitor because no one in space can hear you scream.
Absolutely brilliant engagement of the 'professor'. Teaching 'real science' by math inculcation. Do these equations... see? they work out. It must be so because NUMBERS show you that they work. This is why I insist on real-life PHYSICAL demonstration not the number fakery.
Your presentation is unassailable that is why the - Oh, look! Kittens!
is always brought up so that your unanswerable questions are never addressed.
Bully for you!
NO! say it isn't so! Grabbity works! Just get in a gravitron at a carnival and it will press you to the wall while the floor drops. Of course the 4th grade schoolgirl response is: OK, now start on the OUTSIDE of the carnival ride....
I follow trends so now they are saying that grabbity isn't even a Force, it is a curvature of space/time. Ken Wheeler said that space and time are both nonsense abstract constructs. Tesla said publicly that Einstein was a fool.
The rubbed balloon on the head will stick to the ceiling because electrostatic bonds are stronger than gravity that would bring the same balloon down every time in any other situation.
So how can gravity hold water or an atmosphere to a spinning surface against centrifugal or centripetal forces? (vacuum not withstanding) They claim that it is electrostatics generated by the oceans as an electrolyte solution. Um, a breath can blow that balloon across the ceiling or if sufficient force was applied make it come back down as if it were never charged or stuck. I guess curvature of space-time is a bitch to the pimp of electrostatics. What would the surface tension of water be if it were a charged mass field effect that was co-opted by grabbity? I imagine you would walk on water.
Discussion is what happens between two like minds.
Debate is what happens between two open minds.
Argument is what happens between two people who are either both dogmatic or one is and won't have a debate or discussion.
I don't care if folks get upset to the point of telling other folks to burn in the feces fields of Ghenna outside of Yerusalem... because it's so damned entertaining, but my object is SOLELY to have a DISCUSSION or civil debate because no matter what anyone thinks or says about it: UNCOVERING THESE FUNDAMENTAL LIES ARE IMPERATIVE TO REGAINING THE CONTROL THEY STOLE FROM US.
The octagon is the safe place and has all that esoteric meaning as you all know.
It is widely associated ....as ya'll know with monoteistic religion so me thinks that is the parasite entity. However the octagon seems to not only protect but also to STOP bad things....or somethings....
All atoms and molecules compress towards the center. When you blow a bubble does it come out shaped like a flat Earth? Lawrence Welk would tell you they are very much spherical. Is the sun round? Is the moon round? When I go to a mountain top and I look from horizon to horizon, I see a curve. Every single time. Take a laser go to the top of the empire State building and shine it towards England, accounting for the height of the wake of the ocean, you should hit a Target in England with specificity. You don't because you can't. I truly believe flat Earth is a sign of mental illness. People are trying to describe things that are too complicated. We didn't go to the Moon because we couldn't go to the Moon it has nothing to do with the Earth being flat.
Care to expand on THAT? What might those questions be?
Where the hell are we & WHERE were we stolen from come to mind. Are we in a prison made of electrical current or frequency? Are we plugged into this prison in a different location? Am I getting WARM?
The P1000 nikon gives a different view. Nikon teamed up with nasa and right after has discontinued the P1000. I own one. The curvature is not anything they claim. It seems to be non existent when you can see objects that should disappear over the horizon but they do not. Looking at stars you see morphing geometric shapes and flashing colors. The camera is not out of focus 😂 Im not saying its flat but it damn sure is not a globe. Its a bowl ( crater) with a hump in the center. Saying people have dementia because they dont believe in the heliocentric model is simply your programmed logic is resorting to denial because it jeopardizes your operating system of logic hence your labeling such thinking as dementia. Im not offended Im simply making an observation. I will show you what I mean.
"Looking at stars you see morphing geometric shapes and flashing colors." You might want to adjust your dosage.
My friend bought one of those nikons because he too thought the Earth was flat. So now here we are looking at the full moon and I can see the spherical shadows on the moon.
The Greeks knew the Earth was spherical 3500 years ago. I put five days of intensive investigative research into the so-called flat Earth theory that one guy I had just met who was being friendly to me, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt, investigated it for 5 days and after 5 days I felt like a fucking idiot. For even attempting to see if the Earth was flat. I said to myself even if the Earth is flat, most people will not believe the Earth is flat probably because it's not and you will become the laughing stock of the neighborhood. So I have other questions how pressing is this? This is the most pressing thing in your life? The idiot radio host on rbn would try not to talk about it. It would build up and it would build up and then he would have to just blurt it out that the Earth is flat like he's doing us some favor. It's such bullshit. The guy was an asshole. He tortured his poor Greyhound by making him howl. I told him I said dude you're not going to be on long if you keep pushing his flat Earth bullshit. It's not pressing. It does not affect whether I live or die. It's not killing me. I think Jews harvesting organs is far more pressing than your stupid flat Earth theories. Every person I know who pushes flat Earth is a fucking idiot.
I was on Clint Richardson's thread for about 3 months going on and out about flat Earth while some other guy was pushing his dribble. They never make the case. Not one can tell me how the sun rises goes over my head and sets in the west to only go underneath my feet to rise again in the east. They can't do it.
to explain that if we could hash out the details of what is really going on in a civilized matter then we might be able to get away from the pernicious creaturs that you go on about all the time. It's a means to an end not a denominational free-for-all. You'll have plenty of time to figure out if you are part of the problem or part of the solution.
Two of y'all mentioned the perfect circle of the sun or bubbles. Even the ancient Egyptians depicted the sun as a perfect disc. But Tyson Chicken said that the EARTH would look like a PEAR from space... citing that under grabbity that bodies tend to assume the buldge of an oblate spheroid.
Leaning into the grabbity is not a force but a sag in the spandex of space, and the whore-bits of the plane-its are relatively in an orbital plane then the sun from its side should look like an M&M. It does not. It is a perfect circle. That is way I was so attracted to that Indian dude who had complex helicies of planets chasing the sun in sinusoidal patterns because that would presume that we were looking at the ASS END of the sun because only then would the M&M look round.
After confronting: Flat Water/Flat Earth did I abandon even the Helical orbit model.
Yeah, I know... water curves around the ball without seeking level because... becau... be...
REFRACTION!
Thing of it is with that spandex Einschtenian nonsense is that grabbity is a three-d phenomenon but the Physics for Dummies has it graphed out ONLY in two dimentias. Therefore no one EVER explains the oblate spheroid problem in THREE DIMENSIONS since in 'space' there is no up or down so how to you orient planetary rings, moons, and buldge in infinite free fall in all directions?
If you charge a balloon by rubbing it to your hairy head you get a spherical attraction effect. Gravity is likely a more complex phenomenon, but funny thing: if you study aerodynamics you learn that the air along the surface of your 350 km per hour Formula 1 car, or Indy car, of you are american at some other unit of speed, is actually stationary. It sticks to the car surface. Or plane. Then there is a region where air that is stationary related to the car struggle with the air stationary related to the earth. This area is turbulent. Why would the air on the earth be different?
Maybe part of the reason that they aerosolize our AIR with metal particulates??... to elecrtrfry it . Everything acts differently, including lightning & I'd imagine....air..
Exactly right. And radiate air with electricity to affect the behavior. Metal makes it more reactive. And therefore is electric science obscured so that nobody can figure out what is going on. The earth and the air is one single electric field. You can probably electrically change the earth to get effects in the sky. I was always suspicious of the activity in cern. How fun to crash electrons for years and years. That thing is an earth antenna. In the center of it sits an metal globe capacitance above ground. You know, like on a Tesla coil? But now I am just speculating.
YES! Tesla coils always make me think of stargates & CERN makes me think of portals. All this relocated energy must go somewhere. What IF they are splitting dimensions & everything else is a cover story? There are MANY colliders. WHY?.
They're putting an awful lots of huge Omega shaped pieces of ART on lay lines lately. Makes one wonder if thru electrical variance, they can "move mountains".
We saw it in hundred American made movies. But I tend to think that rain, drought and bush fires represents their technology level. Possibly earthquakes too, but more likely that is just a bomb. They like to pretend that they know deamons and space aliens. Then their greed and corruption goes under the radar.
It always tends to go back to a Gov. agency doesn't it? HAARP? Frequency weapons.....the gods playing harp music/frequency. When we look at the clouds we can see the frequency shapes they are emitting. Goes back to electrifrying the earth realm.
The EARTH is a DOMED CLOSED SYSTEM with several DIMENSIONS & a lightshow above. We can ONLY move within this artificial snow "globe" system. THAT 💯% COVERS the ROUND & FLAT discussion. The Lightshow above is a calendar that runs this system. There would be NO outer space ONLY low earth orbit... which NASA has proven that we cannot leave. That's my thoughts anyways.
IF each dimension carries a certain frequency & we can only SEE less then 1% of that frequency band... Then we have no clue where we are. If we are trapped in a frequency... we are basically in an IMAGE, A HOLOGRAM. so the Earth can be whatever you think or observe it to be. And, IF that frequency band is a game in a holographic Universe computer it will render in correspondence with THAT image.
The stars, moon & solar flares Lightshow above influences our "player" in correlation with the "born-on" date. Also, the moon reflects the true image of the flat disc dimension we are inhabiting with lands outside the ice wall. Whatever THEY tell us is obviously a control mechanism & I don't believe any of their blue marble CGI bullshittery that THEY make up on the fly.
Unless we take into consideration that we MAY be placed in a CUBE. Saturn's cube. The TESSERACT, a 3D mirrored (opposite day) infinite cube of possibility & realms trapped in 4D TIME/Kronos. That's the best I got for such an interesting topic.
Of course there's the cosmic egg theory as well. .... Universe INSIDE us?
OR Are we REALLY just living THE DREAM? Infinite potential of the dreamer?
I can't debate dreamscape cause I've consciousness transferred to other places/dreamscapes when I got dead. Actually, more than one place. I think it's possible that the other dimensions are just in our head/field. That would make dementia make sense as well.
I have wondered. I also wondered IF it was hoax? There's a rabbit on the moon too. I also hear it's made outta cheese :) We can't forget the Miller beer dude that hangs out there too. I thought only wine paired good with cheese?
I cannot ever “like" because the java script. I got tired of typing on my phone. The moon is definetely a hoax but we have 10K years of earth culture based on it. Apparently at one point we had two moons….and that was not too long ago. Then suddenly there was one. Me thinks that Space 1999 British series ….the moon base is pushed out of orbit and left wondering in “space” after a meteorites storm. I suspect that it is partially the story of our other planet….bigger earth.
The Lilith Moon is said by some to still be there but it is BEHIND the 'other moon'. Can't even speculate what that would translate to in Crater Theory.
Easily the most interesting comment section I've ever seen on Substack! Who knows what's going on, but a flat earth in a dome in an electrical universe makes the most sense to me right now. Open to new theories and that it's all an AI simulation...with a Truman show running 24/7.
Truman show in a solipsism type of way? That would solidify the theory that everybody has their own simulated reality .We are all actors on the stage of life. When we die, the SIM ends? What happens to the other actors... alien ant farm turned upside down & spilled out?
And it seems to me that Electricity is a gift of one of the parasites psychopaths. ELectricity….they are EL…the war of the gods. We are one of their creation of one group who played with genetic….to make the slave race. There must have been “others” before. Photonic Energy VS Phonic Energy. Sounds VS Electricity.
It got the most comments of anything I've put out there in a year.
My answer is the one that I started a meme of during ConYid:
All of the above: Why not a terrarium based on electricity that either way could be 'real' or SIM? My novel puts ALL of the theories and even wacky ideas into the entire picture, because no one knows so we might as well have fun with it.
The denominational divide is so intense that people actually vio lent about it on other platforms. So, that means it is in the class of religion because only religion fosters aggressive responses to BELIEF.
it is two religious cult. The heliocentric model is a sun cult modified the other is the same family but belongs to the spiritual category so it has some irrational specks as well….but it also escludes all other theories. Like I said earlier, this was created to divide.
Sorry I have to catch up. I am on the other side of the fake globe.
Crater, bowl AND hollow earth I support all them theories....
The Moon DOES NOT exist. What we see is a reflectiin of our own giant planet. We occupy only one small portion of this "planet". Is it even a planet or some artificial enclosed system?
I know this post from Patrick generated much heat and commentary.
My feelings about Flat Earth VS Heliocenctric model is that both camps reacts like Democrats and Republicans. Both camps make some good point and bad point and both are correct and wrong. Which brings me to the conclusion that the two theories were meant just for this: DIVIDE PEOPLE. They are both decoys. One is the gate keeper of the other.
Now personally speaking there are a lot of simply detectable flaws in what we were made to beilive.
We never went to the moon. There is no moon.
All the space program tax payers are paying in is part of the lie to continue make beilive it exist. Everything created by Hollywood is about making us beilive there is a universe. And if a universe exist not even the scientist know because they all theorize a lot. And PhD grants people to theorize with credibility by certification.
I didn't' know that a single post would get so big. But this is why I did it. To get people engaged towards asking the RIGHT questions, not along denominational divides but if we are being purposely distracted by a DIALECTIC then it is IMPERATIVE to go outside of the binary choice and look for the questions NEVER ASKED. There will be the resolutions for both 'sides'.
Even with the Webb telescope there is clickbait out there where the promise something in the title or the text that is NEVER ADDRESSED. Nearly ALL of the images presented are Disney and of the stuff that is attributed to the Webb (interesting name, now that I see it in writing) they are square pixels of the most distant exoplanet in the universe and I'm supposed to believe that some small hat interpreted fuzzy squares as being anything that they picked out of their ass that day to wiggle at the corruptable goy minds.
Dollard is an electrical engineer. I have never heard him say anything about a water bridge. Or Gilbert Ling. Dollard is the only person who can explain what Nikola Tesla was doing.
High tech is way beyond the public sector, specially because the civilian sector is spending their time and effort discussing the earth being flat or if your leaders are being shape shifting lizards or mentored by space aliens.
Magic is something else. It's psychology mixed with a mysterious and obscured connection between the depths of our subconscious and everything else in the universe, being conscious matter.
For some unknown reason, I am now able to post articles again at the original Machiavellian Man website. I will resume posting articles there again as main website with the backup or mirror website at Machiavellian Man 2.
Back up everything offline. This is EXACTLY how they trapped me and disappeared my work. It might be one of their subtle tricks to do it instead of having the traceable method of notice and deletion.
Fail the spirit of research? Not hardly. You spent 5days researching and were satisfied with the same old pacifier. When I stumbled upon this topic back in 2016 I laughed at first, then I asked myself how do I know any of this shit is reality…? Ive done the research and Ive tested for myself. More things that I can confirm say its not a spinning ball chasing the sun through the cosmos. I spent an initial six months investigating and also a few thousand dollars on decorating the rabbit hole to aid in research. I spend time every few months seeing what people have come up with and am to this day discovering new details about the topic, some of these insights are without explanation and can be repeated thru using a formula without fail. So to tell me I fail at research is quite laughable and a good indicator of how safe you feel snuggled up with the bullshit fed to you as a child, bullshit, that to this day is still ruling your ability to see clearly and make any judgement outside of the narrow scope your mind is capable of viewing anything through. Good luck and happy researching to you😂
One without Rules: Maxx may not see your comment unless he comes directly here to look at it. He is one among too many who get disproportionately aggravated with a topic that should be addressed academically. We can all take it on the chin, but we don't have to - not in my space - when we're working towards a goal that will change the balance of power.
There are people who let the information own them, that then leads to everything against that dogma to be seen as a personal attack.
There are people who OWN the information, which is a neutral commodity, so no attack on the IDEA can be felt personally.
except for people like us, is that it is a bogus word for "I read what someone else wrote on the topic and I agree."
Science is not like that. A hypothesis has to be tested by the originator AND VERIFIED BY A NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY.
It's the testing part that is the research NOT the literature review.
It's the testing part that no one does. They simply cherry pick papers that make their unschooled minds feel good and claim that THEY 'researched' a topic.
Not good enough if we're looking for an Ice Hole in -120F forbidden zones.
I used to climb some mountains like where they rolled a boulder off the edge. It's not funny, and should never be done. One can't see to the terminus of the rocks path, and there might be any number of knock-on rocks to start something one did not indent to move. There might be climbers below.
FYI, I am now blogging at MachiavellianMan 2 @ substack as my original stack is inaccessible by me. I may try and retrieve all the emails from prior subscribers and export them to the new stack. Wayne Lusvardi
Ohh curious! Thanks for letting us know
Comments post in my email. I click on the links and sometimes get GATEWAY ERROR 502 that means their servers have dementia. What is happening to you is what happened to me before I had to start Vaccinefraud 2. I lost access to that via email, then all of a sudden it disappeared without warning or explanation. 137 posts VAPORIZED.
If you can bring up your old Stack then save everything as a PDF offline.
Bilbo's Bitch substack was gutted as well, to many quotes from the Elders and much anti-shemitism. For thee it was Yow-Hu in Sino and the post on underground tunnels in cities to be blown sky high spoken of in the protocols.
I live on a hilltop with a seaside view to the south east. I follow stars and planets as shown i models, where planet movement are perfectly predictable according to the universe models. In the winter half of the year I see the sun rising up from the sea/horizon perfectly round in shape. It's no reason to believe that the sun comes sliding on the roof. The sun maintains it's perfectly round shape for the whole of its travel. The spinning ball from a visual perspektive is logical. I also cannot see Denmark from her, which is not that far away. I also worked with radio and electric stuff, and if it would be flat, some laser should be able to communicate quite easily, and it isn't. What people doesn't care to understand is that matter carries an electric and magnetic field. There is two fields, and I would argue that things like inertia and gravity are electric, not this relativety crap. Anyway, like a fish is submerged in water, everything on the Earth's surface is submerged in the earths fields, air, atmosphere, etc, whatever that is here. You are not sitting on top of a ball. You are submerged into it. We have kilometers with air pushing down on us. All of that would have to fly off as well with the electric field for anything to fly off the earth. Gravity is like a distillery or an oil refinery. Substance seperate in layers, heavy stuff at the bottom, light stuff on the top. We exist between soil and air. You cannot fall of. That's stupid. But the real killer for any flat earther is the carefully mapped out star sky. Show me a flat earth star map. You cannot do it. It doesn't work. I love Dave Weiss though. He is a funny guy. Flat earthers are like punkers. It's a competition about who dares to challenge reality more. Much like the psychosomatic alternative health people arguing that you can think your way out of every illness and change your reality by thinking about it. All of it is because society has failed.
?I follow stars and planets as shown i models, where planet movement are perfectly predictable according to the universe models.
Interesting that you would say the planets are perfect models when NO ONE has ever solved Newton's 3 body problem... That tends to make orbits impossible. This is the basic "universe model" that ALWAYS ends in chaos. I like to use the example of the ISS that that is only 14 seconds from face planting when it is in front of the ball's solar orbit. Does gravity know when to repel?
The classic rubber sheet physics 101 experiment where the bowling ball is centered and billiard balls orbit... what happens when the bowling ball is moved?
No, the planets are wandering stars...
Speaking of stars, are you familiar with Newton's inverse square law? Newton’s inverse square law makes any star more than a couple of light months distance is undetectable. Go ahead and pick any star and use the 8.3 light minutes AU our pretend sun is from the earth ball and whatever specs you want for “S”, the intensity, (the most generous stats for the sun's light is 98,000 lumens per square meter) and then figure what an 8 light minute distance (91.3 million miles) is over a year (180/day) X 365 days per year 67,525 then multiply by the number of light years to get the distance (r). You will be amazed, and remember the lowest detection is around 0.01 lumen.
Here is an example that calculates the radiance of the very biggest star, UY Scuti that is only 5,219 light years away by using our sun's square meter stats comes up to only 0.000000000000897154 lumens by the time it reaches the ball.
But you are correct that our earth is electric, but was never a ball.
The Scandalinavian crowd is growing..
South Norwegian dialects are cool.. With that Danish R-flavor in it..
Greetings..
Nice post..
Me like.. One would almost suppose you might - as I at times do - have taken some impression from Clif High..
Warned with the spook or disinfo Pat-flag..
Pat is cool though!
🐧
Scandinavia is collapsing pushing people finding sense elsewhere (I hope). Pat is certainly far out, so anyone coming here has a sense of humor (I hope). I don't like Cliff High much. When I try to hear him out he looses me with his blabber. My favorite American is Eric Dollard. I will quote his words from a recent live call: when the bulk of the population believes that NASA faked the solar eclipse then there is no more hope for communicating with humans.
Cheers!
Clif for some reason teaches me a lot..
Thanks for a info source to check out..
Dennis Fetcho is one of my main stay other great teachers.. I even visited him twice in Jordan - even brough the poor guy some bacon.. He is stellar in behind the scenes "how it works out there"..
Else Jim Stone tought me really much as well..
Anyways...
Ha de..
Cliff talk too much and says too little. I was really interested in his computer program to interpret language to predict the future, but obviously he doesn't as far as I know really give any of that away. I would like to know how he does it and the reasoning behind. I wish he wrote a book. Then I could scan through his long babble.
Farvel!
Honestly - I never liked the guy untill in 2021 when he began to use substack.. The real turning point for me was when he periodically begain making mp3-audio output on substack witch made me actually listen through his message..
The yt-vids I never listened even one of his from start to finish.. He lost me every time in the video format..
He has explained many times how he built it from scratch..
Though.. It is a data array gathering project swooping up hilarious amount of text input from blogs and social media including meta-data linked to the text files..
Then he catalogues it and the level of handling data in those quantaties is mind boggling..
He used some 4-6 years to build it up and he has refined it for 20 years since..
He is a self proclaimed autodidact in most everything he ventures and his expertice in programming leaned towards fixing meta structers of hyper networks of global proportions..
So his program expertice seems way up there..
His thing is: He has an equal intrest compared to hyper meta layers of programming in the area of archeo-linguistics..
Quite many of Clif's early interviews in the 2000's on coast to coast and rens + redice etc focused on interviewing him on the language forecast tool..
There is a meta site "Clif High Videos" that has links to much of these programs..
But one has to find ones own cup of tea..
I tend to like the guy a lot nowadays..
https://clifhighvideos.com/
Great! Thanks. I'll check it out.
A cup of tea is one thing. Either the thing works or it doesn't.
Ole. It's funny to hear you say exactly what is in my mind (a man screaming in a straightjacket) when I listen to Cliff. I have to put most videos on 1.5X or higher and even then you can't float the turds to the top quick enough.
I'm not interested in the future or predicting it when it was all scripted in the bible, the Protocols, and Silent We Upons for Quiet Whars. They laid out their Plan millennia ago. The rest is just details. That's my biggest beef with High. No actionable information.
Is Dollard the guy that makes the water bridge?
He and only a few others cite the work of Gilbert Ning Ling the smartest man that ever lived. He's gone now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKXSg64r9E
I worked in high tech. Most of what we were doing in the civilian sector was 10-50 years behind the military.
50 Years is the difference between eclipses being the thing that Columbus wowed the natives with by mere prediction of occurrance and actually developing the method for doing it.
Arthur Clarke said that sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguisable from magic.
We are a little bubble in the middle of nowhere
I'm curious if you have ever given thought that this is an electric universe. Our thought are electric impulses. Maybe it's not flat OR ball? Maybe it's not physical, but metaphysical?
Is the carefully mapped out lightshow in the sky, simply a hologram?
when you look thru a telescope ... the stars dance around like squiggly lines. Are they gasses?
Makes sense according to your dissertation of heavy stuff at bottom & light stuff at top.
Sure, why not? I have always wanted to be a magician and change stuff, but I cannot. Maybe our brains are antennas in a field of infinite possibilities, but I don't see any use of this theories. I have this game, and I must play it with what I have. I am sure the moon can also be a cheese, why not? Prove me wrong!! In my reality I see no hologram. I just see stuff and people.
Fair enough. I asked. I'm totally on board with brains being antennas into the field. I've seen some studies that lean heavily into proving that theory.
Cheddar or Swiss?
I go for danish cheese which I hope to see from here when Steven wins the argument about the world being flat.
We just don't KNOW where we are or WHO we are ...exactly.
I'm a biological human. Mostly
I live a lie. 🗺️
So do You. 🌎
THAT is the TRUTH.
ALL our opinions matterღ
I do tarot card readings. It's the weirdest thing ever. I have no idea why, but it works every time. It's like someone is making fun of me. Should I not eat my dinner because I don't know how my body digest the food? I think the last sentence comes from Oliver Heaviside when discussing the nature of electricity.
The hair are antennas.
The SS knew this and used the women of the vril ....they had very long hair and had psychic powers.
The Nazis made a branch of study dedicated to tye occult and their technological advances were PHENOMENAL in such short time. Antartica trips were probaby made to find the passage from this place called "earth" to the bigger planet....we see reflected on the esosphere that we call the moon.
C'mon people why do you think all 185 countries are suddenly in hamony and agreement about Space & Antarctica????
Sabrina Wallace says are hairs on our arms are part of our biofield.✔
I suspect that the 卐 came here & Mk'd us with NASA & the like, so we don't recognize .....Home.
Where were we stolen from?
You are correct because NASA was created by an SS scientist. The women completely disappeared after WW2. Also lets remember how important hair are in cultures all over earth including our own. Native Americans ….Chinese...
Why Ms. Wallace thinks the hair on our arms?? is she thinking may be how hair straighten up?? I have met people without body hair. Hair of our head are important it cannot be just a cosmetic thingy.
What if earth is a literal motherboard... Certainly our cities look like it. It would also explain all the structures that seem to be energy centers.
I'm totally on board with THAT! It factors in with this place being a machine & electrical in nature, Absolutely! All the words we use to explain computer language all lines up Daemon error code, nodes, processing, etc etc.
From the top when flying everything looks very CELLULAR structure. And no in sight that we are on a blue ball in space.
Here's the problem defined.
Electric Universe.
What the Hell does that even mean?
CHEMISTRY IS A SUBSET OF ELECTRICITY IS A SUBSET OF PHYSICS.
The PHYSICAL world is all run on electricity. Acid = +; Base = (-); Salt = (0).
Shape, charge, and size drive chemistry as well.
There are three types of vibration but people like David Icke only focus on frequency.
When you dismember the hole, there is no hole eye gram.
I was thinking in terms of thoughts being holographic. That then gets into quantum physics. Your favorite 4 letter word.... MATH. Math has been corrupted since 4ever so I guess we go back to alchemy. Alchemy in it's witchiest form uses electricity. Charge & Volts. It makes sense in my head.
Except the part of a physical universe. That makes me wonder IF that's all inside our heads. Alchemical charges? For me, it goes back to universe inside of us. Metaphysical & not physical.
Electrical synopsis firing in the mind, feels like the true electric universe.
I love all your points because it makes me ponder more deeply. We can't take the words of physicists...they change their math to suit their needs. Common core? 2+2=5.=confusion. Fusion in the mind of CON.
I did not know there are THREE types of vibration. .THEY claim that things are vibrating so fast that they appear solid. I can't warp my mind around THAT.
Radio, frequency bands & tuning in causing perception...I can get that. The 3rd ....... I. need to look into that. Thanx :)
molecules exhibit rotational, translational, and vibrator motion.
To focus just on vibes is infantile. But that is how gurus get a following. If you aren't talking about all three then smaller minds glom onto what makes them feel good (doesn't have to be real or make sense) and then they build up a following over frequency/vibration.
PAIN is the only thing that damns stuff to Reality.
Unless we are single neurons welded to a wheelie cart and thus bumping up against an obstacle in a Yahoody Rat Maze causes the input that is CODED as pain, then the world is physical reality for me.
So, To TAME the PAIN molecules is to get out of being damned to HELL.
THAT, I can relate to...loud & clear!
That's EXACTLY WHY I question WHY they gave us CNS feelers!
They keep us in pain so we easily accept being put down further into the virtual reality machine. Gimme a headset & dope us up so we don't have to FEEL. THAT is where I see this going. The old problem, reaction, solution gig?
Is this still a fool moon faze? because you are I Love Lucid.
That is exactly it.
I was in AGONY for decades. Most people around me didn't seem to be affected. But then I started to see their drawers where they keep the scissors and can openers and stuff they buy off of TV but never use along with their PAIN KILLERS and then I realized, they're probably just as bad as everyone else but the photodeveloping chemical that is used to destroy your liver (Tylenol) probably works for them. NO drug ever worked for me because...
my LIVER WAS BAD.
So I would watch these goons go on business as usual, self-doped but then the other shoe of the octopus drops and they've all had major health meltdowns while I continue to improve.
Have you heard of Human design Astrology? It uses a flat earth model star map birth placement. It is more accurate and detailed than other astrology. I will show you how the stars are not even stars, they only exist as a reflection off of the moon projection of our planet that somehow appears to us as a sort of negative x ray. The star constellations are all moon terrain variances. I can match anything in the night sky to its origin on the viewable moon surface using a star map and a lunar map. The overlay is quite revealing. Yes even the so called planets are merely moon surface features. We live in a crater on a massive planet and there is water just outside of our plane we call earth. Our verbiage reveals all of this has been known since the appearance of the english words used to describe them. As much as your logic makes sense, Im here to tell you that surprisingly it does not apply in this case. I will show you what Im talking about. Ive never composed a video before but im working on my first detailing how to use this method for yourself to explore the stars and their origin which is actually our much larger home planet . There is only darkness without the projection.
Vibes of cosmos, and godgevlamste who has a new channel called research archiver discuss these concepts
On Rumble he has the video collection and is active as well. The stuff Im speaking of is likely part of the missing puzzle for him. He was on the track with matching the crab nebula to the moon surface. Ive just figured out how to accurately and without doubt find any and all star related locations on the lunar surface. Its mathmatical and simple. Also could be prone to altering our viewing of it if we dont produce the analog version to use without interference of an online host.
I'm waiting for Artermix to jump in on this one.
This is her thang! :)
In the beginning the earth was without form and void. And DARKNESS moved over the face of the Abyss.
It was highlighted by either Pike or Hall that before there was light there was Darkness and that is where 'god' dwelt.
>but NO ONE knows for sure.
I do. The sillyass ball is scientifically impossible. I have 3 facts that destroy the ball that no one can refute and "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, stated by Sherlock Holmes.
Fact 1: Higher pressure gas always expands to fill the lower pressure volume (Boyle’s gas law).
Fact 2: the only way to keep gas from expanding to fill the lower pressure volume is to keep it in a physical, airtight container. Boyle’s law always works unless there is a physical barrier.
Fact 3: no one in history has ever shown gravity preventing gas from expanding to fill the volume, NO ONE. What should be the very first page in any science primer that pushes the heliocentric model is sorely missing, because it cannot exist. It has been over 336 years since Newton published his unfinished theory of gravity; there has been ample time to come up with, at least one empirical example that shows gravity defying scientific law.
Fact 4: when these facts are presented, most thinking people can connect the dots and realize that if the ball model is surrounded by an infinite volume of super low pressure, infinite volume of fake space and with no physical container and FACT 3, that no one in history has ever demonstrated a single condition where gravity can defy Boyle’s gas law, those thinking people would realize that it is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the ball to have air.
A) It should be apparent ball must equalize with the fake space ambient emptiness of 2 hydrogen atoms per cubic meter on the ball's surface in the same way when you slash a tire and the contained high pressure instantly expands to fill the ambient volume until the inside of the tire equalizes with the ambient air pressure outside, except that the ball would never have air in the first place, because it is devoid of an airtight container like the tire before the empirical tire slashing experiment.
B) The usual ball believer reply is, "If there is a container/dome the pressure would equalize but, we have a graduated air pressure."
C) This always ignores the facts that show because there is no possible scientific way for the ball to have air in the first place, therefore graduated air pressure is also as impossible, (see facts 1,2,3).
D) Here is an example showing how wrong the notion of always an equalized pressure in a container when one considers: A vertical container is 1 mile tall, erected at sea level. The container is open at both ends so it maintains exactly the same recognized ambient pressures of 14.7 psi on the bottom and 12 psi on the top exactly like our actual sir pressure. Then this container is sealed.
Question: Does the pressure magically equalize inside the container?
E) No, it remains the same, however when a vacuum pump attach that mimics fake space's super low pressure, THEN this container eventually equalizes at such a low pressure becomes unsuitable for breathing..
F) It is a fact that it is impossible to break scientific law. Anything that works follows scientific law.
G) Apparently example D is not comprehended by the proud illiterate ball suckers because they then quote the "pressure decreases with altitude" scripture, purposely overlooking Sections A-D proclaiming that this obvious fact supports gravity and imagine that this obvious, empiric fact somehow makes Boyle incorrect, but only shows complete ignorance and lack of reading comprehension. They still postulate that a sealed container must have equal pressure throughout because gas will expand to fill the volume.
H) The reason gas stops expanding under the dome/covering is because there is no lower pressure for gas to expand into, like the infinite super low pressure volume of fake space for instance... Boyle's law observes that gas always expands to fill the volume of a container unless the container IS SO LARGE THAT A DENSITY GRADIENT BECOMES SIGNIFICANT (as pointed out in section “D”). This is why we actually have a graduated pressure instead of having an exceptionally low pressure that matches fake space specs of only 2 hydrogen atoms per cubic meter on our surface. There is no reason, because the heliocentric model’s god “gravity” has never shown an ability to prevent gas in any way from following the gas law and any gas at a higher pressure than fake space would always dissipate into the pretend universe.
I) Here is a low cost empiric experiment anyone can do to prove Boyle: Simply inhale. This creates a lower pressure in your lungs and the higher ambient pressure air rushes in to fill the volume. Anyone can do this on the surface where "gravity" is strongest, which is fortunate. Thankfully gravity is helpless to keep gas from expanding to fill the lower pressure volume every time, which allows you to breathe. (Scientific note: There is no equipment that can match fake space super low pressure, but you could spend some time in a vacuum chamber to notice the difference in your ability to use Boyle’s law to breathe. Your lungs would probably just invert at the nearly similar low pressure conditions of fake space.)
J) Air at the proper pressure is very important as illustrated by section I). Because of Fact 3, there is ABSOLUTELY no proof EVER for the unfounded belief that gravity is an airtight container that keeps gas from expanding to fill the infinite volume of fake space, as pointed out in Fact 1, so w/o creating any answer for Fact 2, one must logically agree to agree that Fact 4 is correct. Sadly, section K) explains the steadfast ball belief in the impossible.
K) Gravity is much like a super god featured in any faith based religions because it is invisible and only works in heaven, out of sight, where it defies science supernaturally. All religions and con games have this faith component in common: one must believe and have faith that a higher authority holds the knowledge of things you can’t explain, that defy logic and scientific law.
I found a couple of videos that explain vector adding that enhance the problem with the airless spinning ball... He goes especially slow because he is directing this at those who believe...
https://youtu.be/2lIhfJztzz4 Kryptonite Physics trashes reference frames and constant motion of the ball.
https://youtu.be/Kex4zxPOTkA More Kryptonite for the ball's movement
Why is the ball promoted? I can think of 3 reasons. First, it is the joke that never gets old, second it is a quick and easy idiot test to see if we are still gullible enough to fall for the next made fro TV scare, and lastly because it keeps the lands beyond the wall hidden.
There is more but this is basic enough and most can connect the dots..
What in your theory holds the air to the earth? Are you saying that the air pressure must mean that we live in a container? What is to you the fact of falling objects? Why do you fall down?
I LOVE the classic physics explanation to that, that we are not falling but the earth is rising up underneath us. I've had the earth rise up under me while sliding off a roof. I guess I wasn't sliding DOWN the roof the roof was sliding up me.
Planes shouldn't be able to fly in a gravitational reference frame like that except the other laughable classic physics explanation is that the atmosphere is a monolith that moves with the 3 vector motion of the planet.
Like Steve said, these are all just religious made-up distractions when their pants have been documented as the earth rising up towards their belt lines. Pants can no longer fall down according to the newest explanation of grabbity.
>hat in your theory holds the air to the earth? Are you saying that the air pressure must mean that we live in a container?
Did you find something I wrote to be in error? It is not a theory as I cited empirical science. The facts are that if we lived on a spinning ball, that had no means of containing air, surrounded by an infinite of super low pressure that the surface would equalize with that of fake space.
Every previous civilization knew about the dome so yes, we must have an airtight cover or you are a bot that has no med for air.
>What is to you the fact of falling objects? Why do you fall down?
The air is positively charged, the ground is negative. A natural downward flow is achieved.. Density is why things fall buoyancy is why things defy gravity. and electromagnetic force is 10 to the 14 times of magnitude more powerful than gravity. Pne can defy fake gravity electrically...
Read the whole comment. Feel free to rebuff anything here, I did for the exclusive ball belief, but please reference your disagreement first instead of assuming that I broke scientific law w/o showing my error. Quote my misinformation with your explanation, I welcome it but doubt you have anything logical or scientific that refutes scientific fact. Belief, no matter how much you believe, is not logical or scientific proof unless there is some empirical evidence to support it. Speculation and conjecture are theory not law.
Have a nice day!!!
I would say that I wrote the first comment and could complain that you made no effort to create a flat earth star map that work. Or rebuff any of my statements. Maybe I can post a video of the sunrise from my house, then you can explain to me where it comes from?
>I would say that I wrote the first comment and could complain that you made no effort to create a flat earth star map that work.
Everyone uses a flat map. Aviation - Mechanical air flight assumes a flat, non-rotating Earth
Stars haven't changed for thousands of years... Which should not be possible with the insane speeds... On thin note, have you ever seen Newton's inverse square law?
Newton's Inverse Square Law trashes the heliocentric model
Calculating the radiance of the very biggest star, UY Scuti that is only 5,219 light years away by using our sun's square meter stats. The fake heliocentric AU for our sun at 8.3 light minutes away and the most generous stats for the sun's light is 98,000 lumens per square meter (this is the maximum as seen on earth but you could add what ever you want and Scuti will still be undetectable...)
Calculate how many light minutes in 5,219 light years (2743106400 minutes) and divided the answer by 8.3 light minutes making the actual difference in distance (the "d" in the inverse square formula) to be d=330,506,222.5 which makes the light level only 0.000000000000897154 lumens.
Lowest detectable light is 0.01 lumen
If you are unable to do the simple math involved you can use this: https://calculator.academy/inverse-square-law-calculator/#f1p0
>Or rebuff any of my statements. Maybe I can post a video of the sunrise from my house, then you can explain to me where it comes from?
I understand how humans see which you should have learned in elementary school, called perspective. It limits how far we can see. Remember the railroad tracks going to the vanishing point?
Silly you that imagines that having your ignorance explained is more important than having air in your silly ball model.
At the least, tell me how you can refute fact 3.
You can't and that is the linchpin of your model. The ball has NO AIR!!!
Face it, you have no argument or rebuttal, so you are truly the fool on the hill.
I'm no expert on neither Boyle's gas laws, nor newton math. I just look out my window on what I can see on the sky. I think there is a lot of holes in science. I know some problems with the theory of light, because I studied electricity. The theory of gravity is problematic. All of this can be faulty. The sky is real, and I have never seen the southern cross. Many zodiacs I have never seen. Why? They are on different places around the earth. It's an observable phenomenon. I think you should turn off the computer sometimes and go stargazing. It will be good for you. The earth rotates inside something that looks like the inside of another ball painted with stars. Pluss the movements of the planets. You can go look at it yourself. It's kindergarten stuff! That's how people figured out that the earth is round hundreds of years ago. There are plenty of mysteries to figure out, but everyone can look at stars. Then you can travel to the southern hemisphere and look at the sky there. No math required, just eyes and a star map. Just watch the sun rise from the sea.
Good night to everyone! Im seeing a beautiful moon in the east, perfectly round low down in the sky. It's not sitting in no roof. I'm done for today.
>I just look out my window on what I can see on the sky.
Do you notice that the ocean is flat? Left to right there is no curve. Ever watch a ship go over the horizon with the unaided eye then pull out some decent binoculars and pull it back over miles of curved water?
Here is a calculator that explains in actual math how stupid the curve is that you can test on your silly house on the hill where fools reside. http://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/index.html?d0=6&h0=1&unit=imperial Earth Curve Calculator
Focus dude. You did not refute FACT 3 with anything you wrote and refuting fact 3 is the most important and really the only argument you must make but, you have failed as usual and as expected. Is there a reason you lack basic understanding, logical reasoning, and fail to understand this problem, other than some monetary reason? Being paid to lie is more respectable than actually believing that the earth is a scientifically impossible airless ball, because that belief is just plain stupid.
>You can go look at it yourself. It's kindergarten stuff!
That is why it is called indoctrination. No one develops skepticism at that age. The kids that didn't listen to authority figures were eaten or run the hell over so we are inclined to believe there teachers that tell us that in old times they believed the earth was flat...In fact ALL previous civilizations knew about the flat earth and dome, but these geezers were ignorant you don't want to be ignorant... So early on we were trained to giggle at those that questioned the absurdity or how water stays on the ball.
>That's how people figured out that the earth is round hundreds of years ago.
Nope, all previous civilizations knew better.
You are skirting the impossible problem with the silly ball and purely distracting. Pick any of the facts and refute it or go away because you have nothing intelligent to say.
Can you disprove that high pressures always expand into a lower pressure? When you breathe your lungs create a lower pressure and the higher pressure rushes in., Weather maps show high pressures rushing into lower pressures. Are you seeing the pattern?
Probably not, you are especially lame.
The only way to keep a higher pressure from expanding into a lower pressure is to keep it in an airtight container. Do you know of a any physical way to by pass this step?
Nope
Are you the first person in history to show gravity preventing gas from expanding into a lower pressure?
No.
>There are plenty of mysteries to figure out, but everyone can look at stars.
I realize that math is not your forte like the inverse square law, you, it proves that the stars you see are much closer than portrayed in fake space,
Have you ever seen "stars in a jar"? It is called sonoluminescence using ultrasound The ancients described the dome as the waters above. Itt is way more scientific than stars no one could ever see because of impossible distances.
Still you are too incompetent to even show one single proof the ball has air. You did not refute FACT 3 with anything you wrote and refuting fact 3 is the most important and really the only argument you must make but, you have failed as usual and as expected. Is there a reason you lack basic understanding, logical reasoning, and fail to understand this problem, other than some monetary reason? Being paid to lie is more respectable than actually believing that the earth is a scientifically impossible airless ball, because that belief is just plain stupid.
See ya, you total fool on the hill
Being allergic to Math so that I carry an epipen everywhere I go in case I'm exposed to numbers, I would never attempt a star map either flat or projected as polar coordinates.
That being said the flat earth map explains perfectly commercial flight paths that make ZERO sense on a globe. So whereas flat earth was literally SUPPRESSED for millennia with the same kind of inculcation (abusing people until they believe or at least recite the party line) that is seen during Flat/Globe 'contests' to this very day, then the sparsity of those who maintain we must be in a flat non-rotating earth like the military ballistic manuals state, who would also NEED mathematic skills to produce the charts that are called for are too few or just simply not there.
The Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence.
The controllers WITH MATH come up with elaborate explanations for the way that things are and actually programmed those calculations into star projectors for planetariums with lens optics.
AFTER FUKASHIMA where there was an earth shift that even the Inuit noticed, all of a sudden the ancient optic projectors were replaced by equally sudden grant money to install DIGITAL PROJECTORS to compensate for the fact that the sky ain't what it used to be.
Given that we know less about this planet than the fake Hubble or Webb fakes about distant exoplanets... I would say that looking up is a waste of time unless it gets us past the barrier to that limitless land to escape from the Insane 3 Clans that are gatekeeping ALL of the info on EVERYTHING.
The commercial flight path argument is the worst argument for flat earth. It actually argues that the earth is a globe. The flight paths are routinely shown on a map that everybody agrees is incorrect. If you do a comparison to debunk the globe you must show the flight paths on a globe, not the traditional flat world map with its inherent compromise of trying to flatten a sphere. Then it will make sense. Add in that the flat earthers wants to fly over the big ocean where no emergency option exist and everybody in the plane is doomed to sink into the ocean for minor emergencies. If you fly over land you can land somewhere. The earth must not be flat just because the airplane companies needs an emergency option. Again, it's kindergarten stuff. It's not difficult. And if you argue it's all fake, we can still talk about the nature of the illusion. It's a round illusion. Not flat.
There is a boat race around Antarctica. Maybe you can have fun with it. https://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/what-vendee-globe
Among my favorites is that the air acts as a singular mass so that it moves with the spinning ball so that when you get airborne you do not hover while the spinning earth careens madly underneath you. But the atmosphere is made of many gasses from hydrogen that DOES DEFY GRABBITY and now NASA says that there is a hydrogen cloud that envelopes the moon, to Argon that sticks to the ground.
Duddn't seem to be moving as a singular mass.
Another favorite is: If we keep losing hydrogen like a leaking tire (to space) then where does all of the new hydrogen come from? I know the answer I just like the seal to earn their fish.
Same applies to nitrogen that is a tiny bit less "Escape from New York" than hydrogen.
What you are doing, Steven, is citing the accepted canon and then firing that cannon back at those who claim that it is foundational. But once that cannon misfires and the ball lands outside the barrel then they scramble to make up a new explanation of how or WHY the cannon ball was MEANT to land outside the barrel. All of a sudden it's Refraction this, and Refraction that. Light itself that moves in straight lines also bends across the curve of the earth because, well, gravity well.
Foucalt's Pendulum is a shitshow fakery that is run by a motor. Once these parlor trick LIES are exposed I can't spent another second dealing with the old or the new shit.
Maybe it iss probably "dome" like structure made of water with a different structure.....
I was hoping that you would jump in the Octagon for a K.O. within the first 60 seconds.
You never disappoint.
You are assuming that ball suckers understand basic physics. Note how the "fool on the hill" only has mindless distraction as his argument.
I did mention that a thinking person is required to connect the dots... So as far as MMA, ball suckers are attempting to fight outside of the octagon against straw opponents as I watch smugly, safe inside the cage, in my recliner.
More of my favorites:
Flat Dearther: Today we will discuss only water seeking level.
Glow Ball List: Oh LOOK! a kitten playing piano!
There are some pretty high level flat earth destroyers out there but they ALL use math. Figures never lie but liars sure can figure.
I'm waiting for creative repeats of the canal experiment where you can see past the curve while on a manmade body of water.
REFRACTION!
One fellow wanted crowd funding to do a fence in the desert set up with perpendiculars and levels to show no curve.
NO FANCY MATH just simple geometry and physics.
I think that Math besides being an allergen and a 4-letter word is the downfall of ALL rational inquiry. I think it was set up as Spellwork for that specific reason. I think this because I have hated math all of my life.
So when you say: Flat Water,
Then they say: Miniscus!!!!
But a miniscus happens ONLY INSIDE A CONTAINER.
It would have to be some wet and sticky water to cover a spinning ball in vacuum, or maybe during freefall it might stick in a CLOSED CABIN IN A VOMIT COMET WITH AIR, but then try the free fall trick in a vacuum....
Yep. I found out early on from a couple of near death experiences that air is damn important. Because it is impossible for the silly ball model to have air and assuming that everyone has a brush with a bit of oxygen starvation, that it would give ball suckers pause when the airless ball was exposed.
I am rethinking this approach because, like the fool on the hill admits that understanding Boyle's law is out of his wheelhouse, along with math, physics and understanding what he observes, that some of the devotees are really that stupid that lack an opened mind to address..
I have asked an unnamed post graduate, major college, physics professor to debunk Boyle (well, I was a tad deceitful, posing as a helpless person arguing with newly converted flat earth enthusiasts who used Boyle as their proof )
His proofs were the ISS and the usual garbage which"their" arguments were enough and insisted that Boyle had me stumped. so he eventually wrote, “I'm now going to go teach graduate students real science, so I wish you luck. If I find the specific answer to your very specific question, I'll send it along.” Professor XXXX
He understood checkmate, but those sad little indoctrinated and physics illiterate types desperately ignore the airless ball. Yes I realized that there are paid shills and programmed AI bots that make up the majority of those that can't connect dots,
It seems so obvious to me as I try to write so a 4th grade lobotomized school girl could follow, when this fails, generally, I start accurately describing the mindless sorts in descriptive language.
FB calls me a bully...
The killer fact is fact 3. No proof that gravity does shit,,, . The following is ball believer’s exclusive answer for maintaining air on the ball w/o a physical cover while the ball is surrounded by an infinite volume of super low pressure space: The earth ball keeps its air because… GRAVITY.
Sadly gravity is much like a super god featured in any faith based religions because it is invisible and only works in heaven, out of sight, where it defies science supernaturally. All religions and con games have this faith component in common: one must believe and have faith that a higher authority holds the knowledge of things you can’t explain, that defy logic and scientific law.
I can't argue successfully against a false god believer mindless devotion.
Might as well address this here and now:
The Argus, Starfish, Fishbowl (that's the best) FAKE daytonations of Nooks (nooks CAN'T dey tone ate) were attempts at getting through the star trek force field called the Van Allen Belts that Van Allen later downgraded to just annoying not deadly.
They wipe their asses, sniff it, lick it and then declare it "Not Shit!".
Keeling said that we are LOSING OXYGEN from the atmosphere. He might have even cited the UNHEALED openings in the ELECTRICAL universe firmament without ever daring to use those words.
I can't imagine the kind of pathlogy that would make a creature try to destroy it's own environment in a attempt to escape so that it could infect another environment with its insanity.
The A.I. fights me even with my own databases. I have a video that shows a closed cylindrical container where they levitate a fluid above an open surface with just sound. When I find it I will post it.
The key being the Separation of Chuch and State ---- wait! I mean firmament from atmosphere IN A CLOSED SYSTEM.
Open the system and call the Janitor!
Try the same thing in NASA's massive vacuum chamber and you can't all the Janitor because no one in space can hear you scream.
Absolutely brilliant engagement of the 'professor'. Teaching 'real science' by math inculcation. Do these equations... see? they work out. It must be so because NUMBERS show you that they work. This is why I insist on real-life PHYSICAL demonstration not the number fakery.
Your presentation is unassailable that is why the - Oh, look! Kittens!
is always brought up so that your unanswerable questions are never addressed.
Bully for you!
NO! say it isn't so! Grabbity works! Just get in a gravitron at a carnival and it will press you to the wall while the floor drops. Of course the 4th grade schoolgirl response is: OK, now start on the OUTSIDE of the carnival ride....
I follow trends so now they are saying that grabbity isn't even a Force, it is a curvature of space/time. Ken Wheeler said that space and time are both nonsense abstract constructs. Tesla said publicly that Einstein was a fool.
The rubbed balloon on the head will stick to the ceiling because electrostatic bonds are stronger than gravity that would bring the same balloon down every time in any other situation.
So how can gravity hold water or an atmosphere to a spinning surface against centrifugal or centripetal forces? (vacuum not withstanding) They claim that it is electrostatics generated by the oceans as an electrolyte solution. Um, a breath can blow that balloon across the ceiling or if sufficient force was applied make it come back down as if it were never charged or stuck. I guess curvature of space-time is a bitch to the pimp of electrostatics. What would the surface tension of water be if it were a charged mass field effect that was co-opted by grabbity? I imagine you would walk on water.
Discussion is what happens between two like minds.
Debate is what happens between two open minds.
Argument is what happens between two people who are either both dogmatic or one is and won't have a debate or discussion.
I don't care if folks get upset to the point of telling other folks to burn in the feces fields of Ghenna outside of Yerusalem... because it's so damned entertaining, but my object is SOLELY to have a DISCUSSION or civil debate because no matter what anyone thinks or says about it: UNCOVERING THESE FUNDAMENTAL LIES ARE IMPERATIVE TO REGAINING THE CONTROL THEY STOLE FROM US.
Cheerios.
The octagon is the safe place and has all that esoteric meaning as you all know.
It is widely associated ....as ya'll know with monoteistic religion so me thinks that is the parasite entity. However the octagon seems to not only protect but also to STOP bad things....or somethings....
On another thread, The Mick brought up these awesome questions in regards to the globalist model.
How do "gas giants" exist in the infinite vacuum of space?
How do they spin, unless in a vortex which requires a medium?
If the "North pole" is drifting, is the "South pole" doing the same but opposite?
In 3 dimensional space the oblong alignment is only from a certain point of view, ie Earth.
What keeps the gases from expanding or travelling to the vacuum origin?
Why doesn't the "black hole" in the center of our galaxy suck up all these "floating" gases?
All vacuums require containment , is the universe surrounded by walls?
What "contains" these gaseous formations.
Why spherical formation, if gases, and not like clouds or vapour anomalies, which are random shaped?
What magnet forces are outside the earth making the poles flip?
If I have a spherical magnet, ie the earth, where are the North and South poles on a sphere?
It's all made up , and the very concept defies all natural laws of physics.
Cheers
There is no north pole or south pole geographically speaking. Only magnetic ones. So in a bowl the topography of the continents is slightly different.
There is no spinning......but wobbling
So an enclosed system within another enclosed system .
And ... you forgot to talk about the Marcador fake lines .....and the flight path of airlines flights...they follow a Mobius ring pattern.
All atoms and molecules compress towards the center. When you blow a bubble does it come out shaped like a flat Earth? Lawrence Welk would tell you they are very much spherical. Is the sun round? Is the moon round? When I go to a mountain top and I look from horizon to horizon, I see a curve. Every single time. Take a laser go to the top of the empire State building and shine it towards England, accounting for the height of the wake of the ocean, you should hit a Target in England with specificity. You don't because you can't. I truly believe flat Earth is a sign of mental illness. People are trying to describe things that are too complicated. We didn't go to the Moon because we couldn't go to the Moon it has nothing to do with the Earth being flat.
Every time these clowns on rbn talk about flat Earth they pretty much signed their termination notice
It's like the good old days of internet where every comment section ended with people calling each other Nazis.
Every time these clowns on rbn talk about flat Earth they pretty much signed their termination notice
What IF this is an argument that nobody can win because it's metaphysical & NOT physical?
Agree.....
What if it's not an argument because no one has ever asked the right and honest questions before?
"If you ask the wrong question - It doesn't matter what the answer is."
Care to expand on THAT? What might those questions be?
Where the hell are we & WHERE were we stolen from come to mind. Are we in a prison made of electrical current or frequency? Are we plugged into this prison in a different location? Am I getting WARM?
The P1000 nikon gives a different view. Nikon teamed up with nasa and right after has discontinued the P1000. I own one. The curvature is not anything they claim. It seems to be non existent when you can see objects that should disappear over the horizon but they do not. Looking at stars you see morphing geometric shapes and flashing colors. The camera is not out of focus 😂 Im not saying its flat but it damn sure is not a globe. Its a bowl ( crater) with a hump in the center. Saying people have dementia because they dont believe in the heliocentric model is simply your programmed logic is resorting to denial because it jeopardizes your operating system of logic hence your labeling such thinking as dementia. Im not offended Im simply making an observation. I will show you what I mean.
"Looking at stars you see morphing geometric shapes and flashing colors." You might want to adjust your dosage.
My friend bought one of those nikons because he too thought the Earth was flat. So now here we are looking at the full moon and I can see the spherical shadows on the moon.
The Greeks knew the Earth was spherical 3500 years ago. I put five days of intensive investigative research into the so-called flat Earth theory that one guy I had just met who was being friendly to me, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt, investigated it for 5 days and after 5 days I felt like a fucking idiot. For even attempting to see if the Earth was flat. I said to myself even if the Earth is flat, most people will not believe the Earth is flat probably because it's not and you will become the laughing stock of the neighborhood. So I have other questions how pressing is this? This is the most pressing thing in your life? The idiot radio host on rbn would try not to talk about it. It would build up and it would build up and then he would have to just blurt it out that the Earth is flat like he's doing us some favor. It's such bullshit. The guy was an asshole. He tortured his poor Greyhound by making him howl. I told him I said dude you're not going to be on long if you keep pushing his flat Earth bullshit. It's not pressing. It does not affect whether I live or die. It's not killing me. I think Jews harvesting organs is far more pressing than your stupid flat Earth theories. Every person I know who pushes flat Earth is a fucking idiot.
I was on Clint Richardson's thread for about 3 months going on and out about flat Earth while some other guy was pushing his dribble. They never make the case. Not one can tell me how the sun rises goes over my head and sets in the west to only go underneath my feet to rise again in the east. They can't do it.
You know what maxx,I wont waste anymore of your time. Im simply an idiot and dont have a clue of what Im talking about. Thanks for that realization.
Max, you're not alone in your views or venom. That is why I posted
https://generalportal55.substack.com/p/flat-dearth-matters
to explain that if we could hash out the details of what is really going on in a civilized matter then we might be able to get away from the pernicious creaturs that you go on about all the time. It's a means to an end not a denominational free-for-all. You'll have plenty of time to figure out if you are part of the problem or part of the solution.
The only thing that makes this flat Earth globe hell are the human excrement that walk it
Already off to a rousing start.
I get a kick out of back-and-forth on both sides.
Two of y'all mentioned the perfect circle of the sun or bubbles. Even the ancient Egyptians depicted the sun as a perfect disc. But Tyson Chicken said that the EARTH would look like a PEAR from space... citing that under grabbity that bodies tend to assume the buldge of an oblate spheroid.
Leaning into the grabbity is not a force but a sag in the spandex of space, and the whore-bits of the plane-its are relatively in an orbital plane then the sun from its side should look like an M&M. It does not. It is a perfect circle. That is way I was so attracted to that Indian dude who had complex helicies of planets chasing the sun in sinusoidal patterns because that would presume that we were looking at the ASS END of the sun because only then would the M&M look round.
After confronting: Flat Water/Flat Earth did I abandon even the Helical orbit model.
Yeah, I know... water curves around the ball without seeking level because... becau... be...
REFRACTION!
Thing of it is with that spandex Einschtenian nonsense is that grabbity is a three-d phenomenon but the Physics for Dummies has it graphed out ONLY in two dimentias. Therefore no one EVER explains the oblate spheroid problem in THREE DIMENSIONS since in 'space' there is no up or down so how to you orient planetary rings, moons, and buldge in infinite free fall in all directions?
If you charge a balloon by rubbing it to your hairy head you get a spherical attraction effect. Gravity is likely a more complex phenomenon, but funny thing: if you study aerodynamics you learn that the air along the surface of your 350 km per hour Formula 1 car, or Indy car, of you are american at some other unit of speed, is actually stationary. It sticks to the car surface. Or plane. Then there is a region where air that is stationary related to the car struggle with the air stationary related to the earth. This area is turbulent. Why would the air on the earth be different?
Maybe part of the reason that they aerosolize our AIR with metal particulates??... to elecrtrfry it . Everything acts differently, including lightning & I'd imagine....air..
Exactly right. And radiate air with electricity to affect the behavior. Metal makes it more reactive. And therefore is electric science obscured so that nobody can figure out what is going on. The earth and the air is one single electric field. You can probably electrically change the earth to get effects in the sky. I was always suspicious of the activity in cern. How fun to crash electrons for years and years. That thing is an earth antenna. In the center of it sits an metal globe capacitance above ground. You know, like on a Tesla coil? But now I am just speculating.
YES! Tesla coils always make me think of stargates & CERN makes me think of portals. All this relocated energy must go somewhere. What IF they are splitting dimensions & everything else is a cover story? There are MANY colliders. WHY?.
They're putting an awful lots of huge Omega shaped pieces of ART on lay lines lately. Makes one wonder if thru electrical variance, they can "move mountains".
We saw it in hundred American made movies. But I tend to think that rain, drought and bush fires represents their technology level. Possibly earthquakes too, but more likely that is just a bomb. They like to pretend that they know deamons and space aliens. Then their greed and corruption goes under the radar.
It always tends to go back to a Gov. agency doesn't it? HAARP? Frequency weapons.....the gods playing harp music/frequency. When we look at the clouds we can see the frequency shapes they are emitting. Goes back to electrifrying the earth realm.
I m not a flat earther because that theory is about a half sphere suspended in same space.
Same pig different lipstick.
There is no explanation for the fake planets......7 and we are the 3rd one??
It does not get any more esotetic than this.
The EARTH is a DOMED CLOSED SYSTEM with several DIMENSIONS & a lightshow above. We can ONLY move within this artificial snow "globe" system. THAT 💯% COVERS the ROUND & FLAT discussion. The Lightshow above is a calendar that runs this system. There would be NO outer space ONLY low earth orbit... which NASA has proven that we cannot leave. That's my thoughts anyways.
IF each dimension carries a certain frequency & we can only SEE less then 1% of that frequency band... Then we have no clue where we are. If we are trapped in a frequency... we are basically in an IMAGE, A HOLOGRAM. so the Earth can be whatever you think or observe it to be. And, IF that frequency band is a game in a holographic Universe computer it will render in correspondence with THAT image.
The stars, moon & solar flares Lightshow above influences our "player" in correlation with the "born-on" date. Also, the moon reflects the true image of the flat disc dimension we are inhabiting with lands outside the ice wall. Whatever THEY tell us is obviously a control mechanism & I don't believe any of their blue marble CGI bullshittery that THEY make up on the fly.
Unless we take into consideration that we MAY be placed in a CUBE. Saturn's cube. The TESSERACT, a 3D mirrored (opposite day) infinite cube of possibility & realms trapped in 4D TIME/Kronos. That's the best I got for such an interesting topic.
Of course there's the cosmic egg theory as well. .... Universe INSIDE us?
OR Are we REALLY just living THE DREAM? Infinite potential of the dreamer?
I agree....minus that we are only flat bc we occupy a smaller surface of a 1000x larger place.
The stars are the reflection of the larger planet we live in in one of the many layers of a domes.....plural.
I debate and argue the dream theory.
I was WAITING for you to tag in!
I can't debate dreamscape cause I've consciousness transferred to other places/dreamscapes when I got dead. Actually, more than one place. I think it's possible that the other dimensions are just in our head/field. That would make dementia make sense as well.
Or schitzophrenia......
Yeah! THAT too !
The little blue ball theory is a lie because. The planets are made up.
However you xan find them on the fake moon map.
Have you ever wondered why they mapped so well???
I have wondered. I also wondered IF it was hoax? There's a rabbit on the moon too. I also hear it's made outta cheese :) We can't forget the Miller beer dude that hangs out there too. I thought only wine paired good with cheese?
I cannot ever “like" because the java script. I got tired of typing on my phone. The moon is definetely a hoax but we have 10K years of earth culture based on it. Apparently at one point we had two moons….and that was not too long ago. Then suddenly there was one. Me thinks that Space 1999 British series ….the moon base is pushed out of orbit and left wondering in “space” after a meteorites storm. I suspect that it is partially the story of our other planet….bigger earth.
Java is weird huh? Likes are soo important. I wonder why they F around with that?
Moon could also be a satellite spacecraft. I didn't see space 1999 ... still haven't seen Matrix.. I'm SUPER sheltered over here!
I think Star Wars was telling us something tho.
The Lilith Moon is said by some to still be there but it is BEHIND the 'other moon'. Can't even speculate what that would translate to in Crater Theory.
Wallace and Grommet went to the moon.
It is, in fact, made of cheese.
Easily the most interesting comment section I've ever seen on Substack! Who knows what's going on, but a flat earth in a dome in an electrical universe makes the most sense to me right now. Open to new theories and that it's all an AI simulation...with a Truman show running 24/7.
💯🎯
Truman show in a solipsism type of way? That would solidify the theory that everybody has their own simulated reality .We are all actors on the stage of life. When we die, the SIM ends? What happens to the other actors... alien ant farm turned upside down & spilled out?
Such an interesting topic!
We dont die. We come back to hell....well it depends sometimes for somebody is not hell. ;-)
Not Me! I'm done. I'm hanging up my spurs & calling it a victory. I'm not even looking in the direction of a bright light! :)
🌐 Bringing it down!
Ha ha ha......agree.
like it too.
And it seems to me that Electricity is a gift of one of the parasites psychopaths. ELectricity….they are EL…the war of the gods. We are one of their creation of one group who played with genetic….to make the slave race. There must have been “others” before. Photonic Energy VS Phonic Energy. Sounds VS Electricity.
Ravi Shankar said in India they say: Sound IS God.
Phonon/Photons, Sonoluminescence. LeBon said that it's all a continuum from friction to infra red, to spark to nothing.
It got the most comments of anything I've put out there in a year.
My answer is the one that I started a meme of during ConYid:
All of the above: Why not a terrarium based on electricity that either way could be 'real' or SIM? My novel puts ALL of the theories and even wacky ideas into the entire picture, because no one knows so we might as well have fun with it.
The denominational divide is so intense that people actually vio lent about it on other platforms. So, that means it is in the class of religion because only religion fosters aggressive responses to BELIEF.
"only religion fosters aggressive responses to BELIEF." 🎯💥and fosters cults...
it is two religious cult. The heliocentric model is a sun cult modified the other is the same family but belongs to the spiritual category so it has some irrational specks as well….but it also escludes all other theories. Like I said earlier, this was created to divide.
Goyms are stupid anyway.
What a rocky video!!
Am I still on time to contribute?
Sorry I have to catch up. I am on the other side of the fake globe.
Crater, bowl AND hollow earth I support all them theories....
The Moon DOES NOT exist. What we see is a reflectiin of our own giant planet. We occupy only one small portion of this "planet". Is it even a planet or some artificial enclosed system?
Does anyone knows if a reflection in optical phisics is viewed on a glass transparent surface in multiple images like kaleidoscope like?
This is what happens to the fake moon when you look it thru a glass window.
Also strange other patterm occur with other materials. Viewed through a screen will cause a cross like effect on the "moon".
Remember there is no moon.
Hey, little bald kid talking to Neo: Did you mean to say: There is no Moon or was that a spellcheck thing for Spoon?
sounds like somebody was giving us a clue while deceiving us.
I know this post from Patrick generated much heat and commentary.
My feelings about Flat Earth VS Heliocenctric model is that both camps reacts like Democrats and Republicans. Both camps make some good point and bad point and both are correct and wrong. Which brings me to the conclusion that the two theories were meant just for this: DIVIDE PEOPLE. They are both decoys. One is the gate keeper of the other.
Now personally speaking there are a lot of simply detectable flaws in what we were made to beilive.
We never went to the moon. There is no moon.
All the space program tax payers are paying in is part of the lie to continue make beilive it exist. Everything created by Hollywood is about making us beilive there is a universe. And if a universe exist not even the scientist know because they all theorize a lot. And PhD grants people to theorize with credibility by certification.
Bullshit.
I didn't' know that a single post would get so big. But this is why I did it. To get people engaged towards asking the RIGHT questions, not along denominational divides but if we are being purposely distracted by a DIALECTIC then it is IMPERATIVE to go outside of the binary choice and look for the questions NEVER ASKED. There will be the resolutions for both 'sides'.
Even with the Webb telescope there is clickbait out there where the promise something in the title or the text that is NEVER ADDRESSED. Nearly ALL of the images presented are Disney and of the stuff that is attributed to the Webb (interesting name, now that I see it in writing) they are square pixels of the most distant exoplanet in the universe and I'm supposed to believe that some small hat interpreted fuzzy squares as being anything that they picked out of their ass that day to wiggle at the corruptable goy minds.
I'm still waiting on Niburu.
Dollard is an electrical engineer. I have never heard him say anything about a water bridge. Or Gilbert Ling. Dollard is the only person who can explain what Nikola Tesla was doing.
High tech is way beyond the public sector, specially because the civilian sector is spending their time and effort discussing the earth being flat or if your leaders are being shape shifting lizards or mentored by space aliens.
Magic is something else. It's psychology mixed with a mysterious and obscured connection between the depths of our subconscious and everything else in the universe, being conscious matter.
For some unknown reason, I am now able to post articles again at the original Machiavellian Man website. I will resume posting articles there again as main website with the backup or mirror website at Machiavellian Man 2.
Back up everything offline. This is EXACTLY how they trapped me and disappeared my work. It might be one of their subtle tricks to do it instead of having the traceable method of notice and deletion.
Fail the spirit of research? Not hardly. You spent 5days researching and were satisfied with the same old pacifier. When I stumbled upon this topic back in 2016 I laughed at first, then I asked myself how do I know any of this shit is reality…? Ive done the research and Ive tested for myself. More things that I can confirm say its not a spinning ball chasing the sun through the cosmos. I spent an initial six months investigating and also a few thousand dollars on decorating the rabbit hole to aid in research. I spend time every few months seeing what people have come up with and am to this day discovering new details about the topic, some of these insights are without explanation and can be repeated thru using a formula without fail. So to tell me I fail at research is quite laughable and a good indicator of how safe you feel snuggled up with the bullshit fed to you as a child, bullshit, that to this day is still ruling your ability to see clearly and make any judgement outside of the narrow scope your mind is capable of viewing anything through. Good luck and happy researching to you😂
One without Rules: Maxx may not see your comment unless he comes directly here to look at it. He is one among too many who get disproportionately aggravated with a topic that should be addressed academically. We can all take it on the chin, but we don't have to - not in my space - when we're working towards a goal that will change the balance of power.
There are people who let the information own them, that then leads to everything against that dogma to be seen as a personal attack.
There are people who OWN the information, which is a neutral commodity, so no attack on the IDEA can be felt personally.
The problem with 'research'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki6NWP_DXRE
except for people like us, is that it is a bogus word for "I read what someone else wrote on the topic and I agree."
Science is not like that. A hypothesis has to be tested by the originator AND VERIFIED BY A NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY.
It's the testing part that is the research NOT the literature review.
It's the testing part that no one does. They simply cherry pick papers that make their unschooled minds feel good and claim that THEY 'researched' a topic.
Not good enough if we're looking for an Ice Hole in -120F forbidden zones.
Point to "Washington on a Map"
--->
https://imgur.com/a/wsQ1b7v
I don't know where I would have rated on that test.
I wasn't sure if they were asking about George or the State. I would have pointed to the Pacific Northwest.
Thanks for the link to a site I didn't know existed.
I used to climb some mountains like where they rolled a boulder off the edge. It's not funny, and should never be done. One can't see to the terminus of the rocks path, and there might be any number of knock-on rocks to start something one did not indent to move. There might be climbers below.
I hear you.
Grim Fate would have been that it pancaked their car at the head of the trail.