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The first link is worth datamining for things we're not familiar with but you can see the standard PARADOXICAL MK messaging: Fever is not bad, BUTT,

"your health care provider may recommend taking an over-the-counter medicine"

Which one is it? Doing its job or Mind Fuck?

The second link needs to be sent to Machavellian Man = Wayne.

Here's my take on it. The mitochrondria burn glucose in the presence of oxygen so you need the tank of oxygen to blow on the torch. But the immune system is a one-trick pony that uses super oxide as a flamethrower when cell-mediated immunity is provoked so an infection leading to fever would need more oxygen to the white blood cells for the white priviledge of burning the hell out of the invaders. All of that immune response takes a shitload of energy too (ever have the flu and feel dead tired?) so it is a triple whammy of oxygen demand just to keep things going.

Albert Szent Gyorgyi said that the human body CANNOT make, or repair molecules without oxygen radicals so the use of oxygen is essential for the reconstruction after the uncivil war.

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I took just a skim of Tilden's work and he is in the company of many asses that I will not spend a second of my time bothering with. I will leave it up to those who still might have stomach lining left to tell me what are the SPECIFIC TOXINS AND THE SPECIFIC ANTIDOTES that he is referring to. If none are given then he's just a religious nut waving the Turd Rain theory at everyone.

The only way to remove what ails this planet is a gigantic comet to finish the job that seems to have been started in the Great Rift Valley but was never completed. Short of that the untopian hopium smoking Tilden will never have practical effect.

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What part did he get right?

If you're referring to his toxin theory then it is DAMAGE to our livers and other pathways that prevent us from purging the poisons. After 4 years of liver cleanses I didn't do another one for about one year. I still haven't done any (could probably benefit from one) because I kept the system going with just olive oil.

If people aren't talking about solutions like that they are just cults.

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Karafree's avatar

What about chlorine dioxide. I read a recent stack about that

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Nuno's avatar

Always the BUTT my Friend...

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Oh, honay...

Dats da biggust Butt yo evah gunna see.

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Mahwah Azet's avatar

…the biggest BUTT from the skinniest assidominatrum🤣🤣

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Nuno's avatar

I absolutly admire your ability and pattern recognition to see beyond the seeing my Friend!!!

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

It's as simple as Opposite Day. The moment that you know that THEY are LIARS then you simply apply WWSD? What Would Satan Do? Of course that requires a loss of innocence on the part of the questioner because you have to think like the thing that is hunting you, but that was always required since the days of saber-toothed tigers so you don't get eaten while hunting the wild tubers yourself.

These creatures are what I called in my book Kingdom Plantae: Pattern Hunting Predators. Sure they can get creative but they run the same football play of death every time because it works on the small minded furless little animals called humans EVERY TIME! Ask any technician for The Motto: Never mess with a working system.

What this does, outside of letting the prey protect itself from predation, is that it also provides the skills to hunt the Hunter (another trait that has been bred out of the furless animalsl).

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Nuno's avatar

Fist thank you for this replay Patrick!!

Your practice, experience and expertice in this subject always impress me and i admire that a lot!!

In the X-FILES Chris Carter give us good examples...

You talk a lot of this in your Material/Work (WWSD)

The inocense is loss when we know that we are in Hell...

( we have to be very carefull always about MK... even after we know where we are...)

And you gave the ex: of the Comodo Dragon... in Kingdom Plantae

The never mess with a working system is one of the most logical steps to take only by observing the pattern of that system. ( if we will noth ad nothing for better , the better action is not take action...)

If the pray starts to see the pattern in is hunter and have memory for not suffer of Stockolm syndrome maybe he/she can develop the skills required to hunt the Hunter. ( very good point my Friend) .

You point out in your work many times... in your video footshock... in the type of adrenalitys... in Biology of agression... and many more... this trait is been bleeded out from the furless animals that we by mistake call Persons, Hu-mans and other "political/social" correctness names. You have done a perfect Bulleye in this my Friend!!

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Karafree

I wish you a Speedy recovery

My father was born in 1930. When he got sick he always and ASAP went to bed covered himself really well with blankets and drank hot liquids. He was out of bed the next day. He was not sick often. In the end though cancer got him at age 74. You can't burn out cancer with induced fewer.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Thanks for the MAJOR revelation on INTERNAL heating with the hot liquids. You can raise the peripheral temperature with blankets but it takes a while for the core to build up. If you take in hot fluids you're getting it from the inside and the outside. Simple. Low tech.

Whatever the causes of cancer are, they were less plentiful 70 years earlier. The Old Magicks don't work the same these days. There was a nobel prize awarded for the moron who said that he could burn out syphilis by giving people malaria.

We have a lovely selection of Devils at this counter surrounded by the Deep Blue Sea at the other counter. Or if you prefer you could buy this Rock or this Hard Place.

So, in the view of Mel Thornberg cancer is caused by spirochetes (syphilis/lyme) so the prize winner burnt out the causative agent with fever but like with the Herxheimer brothers who also

'cured' syphilis with arsenic, antimony or mercury, there was no followup on who died from toxic metal poisoning (the Herxheimer Response) or how long it was after the syphilis was 'cured' that the malaria cut the mortal coil.

I wonder what your dad might have been able to accomplish if he had an old style sauna?

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artermix's avatar

Well then the trick will be to cause a natural fever that raises to 106F.

What disease is going to do that and how many people can survive that?

Sure a fever like that would cause a lot of shit to die.

We are dealing with the most clever pathogen on earth.

And you got to heat up from the inside out not the other way around.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

The point of the Seattle Childrens myth busting is that you can indeed survive anything below 108F. Hurts like hell but then it's better than being locked in hell with an unremoveable bug.

I tried dry sauna but I can't say that it helped my chemical allergy (or anything else) because unless there is air exchange with pure oxygen and a non chlorinated shower afterwards.

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Karafree's avatar

I can tell you it hurts like hell. I described my pain from the 104.3 fever as if i had been forced to dig up big rocks and shovel them all day long with no break and no water.

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artermix's avatar

induced fever and inner core fever are 2 different things.

The physics of it is one starts from the inside out and the other (the induced one) from the outside in.

I have seen this predicament in Lyme Disease patients paying big money to get induce fever at the East European Lyme clinics. It is a fail for lyme. Why?

Because the mechanism of fever triggering from inside has a logic that the other does not have.

Pathogens will tend to escape the heat moving toward the outside while in the induced fever they move deeper and deeper inside the core. That is exactly what antibiotics do with gram negative bacteria and spirochetes.

While it might work with certain type of pathogens it does not theoretically and practically it does, since those who have undergo medically induced fever treatment have had modest success feeling better for months after the treatments and claiming that certain TBD were eliminated. Hard to find enough credible literature in this area because the confusion generated by alternative medical practices that still fail a correct diagnosis of any zoonotic disease.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Some Swiss dude did the induced hyperthermia with pulsed antibiotics for one of ours with cancer but it didn't do jack shit.

Mel Thornberg said that spirochetes caused cancer.

All a spirochete has to do is adopt a cystic form until the fever is gone then germinate back to the cell wall competent form. I've never seen evasive strategies so varied and complex as this ENGINEERED BUG.

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OK's avatar

To where can we damn the damned spirochetes if we are already in hell? Are we living in a CONSTRUCT of sorts where evil is being used to test what level of pain and suffering we can withstand before we throw in the towel? Like when we commit SUI-CIDE. which is supposed to prevent one from going to the next level or higher consciousness I hear.

Life/existence is miraculous and mysterious.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I've gotten the impression since 2008 that the creatures we are up against fear EXTINCTION. That is why they fight so hard for dominance and to replicate. The Controllers are bent on Life Extension. Why would that be if we truly are in Hell? Who would want to prolong that unless they have an existential dread of the AfterLife and it isn't the religious mumbo jumbo about punishment but NOTHINGNESS - which, by the way, most of the top thinkers I interface with are just fine with: After a rousing round of HELL then an eternity of nothing at all would be a pleasant ????? reward? ending???

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Tony C.'s avatar

Exactly, sleep and fluids. No food. Animals don't eat when they are sick. And you thought you had dominion over the animals?

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Tony C.'s avatar

I didn't mean you you. Know what I mean?

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Ewe, Yew, You.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Ahh... sleep... the poor man's opium.

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artermix's avatar

ha ha ha…..ok so lets reverse to Gilgamesh sleep depravation training.

Opium tree is in ancient Babylonian art https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4f/6f/a7/4f6fa73d9a1279400f7d7c9ea71d17a4.jpg

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Karafree's avatar

Thank you OK. This happened 8 years ago... Still recovering.. Still figuring out what they actually did to treat me.. But im a fighter

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Mimi's avatar

How many of us even learned about ways to drain our lymph nodes so they could work more efficiently. I’ve recently heard someone say a friend of a friend recently diagnosed with cancer and it “moved to their lymph nodes”. I’m over here wondering but guessing no, if they were given a mini lesson on how the lymph system works. Were they given some non invasive tools or suggestions like getting a lymph massage, utilizing a mini trampoline for the motion that assists the flow? When normies know these things & yet the doctors don’t mention some of the easiest methods, we realize there are those of us who stay as far away of that system they can. It’s such a damn shame.

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Tony C.'s avatar

Exactly. I tell my parents all the time to avoid the medical devils at all costs. Unfortunately, they are believers. In the same vane as government and religion, I did just repeat myself, belief makes Allopathic/Rockefeller slash and burn medicine a religion.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Robert Mendelsohn, 1978, Confessions of a Medical Heretic:

If you're dying, stay out of the hospital, you'll probably get better.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

ah... but this is a Jordan Stack. Allow me to draw you deeper into the Abyss.

ALL of my years taught me that the MOST important system of the body is the lymph. My first year anatomy & physiology book had THREE PAGES on the topic.

Thing of it is: If the immune system is compromise (and it IS compromised) then sequestration in the lymph nodes of: microbes, dead tissue, chemicals, etc. that is SUPPOSED TO BE BROKEN DOWN and moved along just sit there like those inner cities taken over by drug addicts that are bent over like manniquins doing nothing and there are no cops in sight and the garbage is built up in piles.

Although you have the right approach in an ideal situation (moving lymph) that would be the worst thing to do when the sewers are overwhelmed. The primary actions are:

Parasite cleanse.

Bowel cleanse.

LIVER CLEANSE will automatically allow the lymp to start moving on its own since the liver has to process the garbage that comes from the lymph fluid dumped into the blood at the thoracic duct and into the heart.

Ever wonder why heart disease is the #1 kyller in North Hamerica?

Yoga was not pillow-sitting hoping to wish the world into a happy place New Age fantasy. It's primary function was lymphatic squeezin's. Butt, eye can tell ewe that after a year of yoga BEFORE I cleaned my liver it didn't do ANYTHING.

Pay close attention to the ORDER in which these interventions MUST occur or a person could actually make things worse. Axe me how I know...

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Mahwah Azet's avatar

…precisely, problem occurs when lymph nodes are removed…

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

blood vessels interstitium and lymph are one contiguous circulator system.

NOT CAR PARTS. They can't be viewed or treated as if they are independent.

80% of the lymph is in the bowels.

Breasts get lopped off causing Cul De Sac of truncated lymph that now has nowhere to go except up as skin tumors or down for things like lung cancer....

"We did the best we could. We cut out extra lymp - to be sure. Unfortunately, your cancer msetastasized...."

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mary's avatar

Of all the frictional resistances, the one that most retards human movement is ignorance.

Nikola Tesla

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Tony C.'s avatar

And if you haven't heard, the new definition of retarded is anyone who believes the earth is a globe. Aka globetards.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I came up with a design for a device in an evacuated chamber that emulates the earth with a thin coating of water spinning in a vacuum. It would take too much money to make the device that could otherwise be spent on anything that anyone with the sense godgaveapissant could see wasn't worth the effort to demonstrate couldn't happen in the first place.

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Mahwah Azet's avatar

…and I thought it was globetrotters🤓

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Retard = To Hold Back.

Ignorance = Lack of knowledge remediable by seeking instruction.

STUPID = unfixable. call the Knackers.

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artermix's avatar

Spirochetes die at 106F.

So in Syphilis a while ago, before antibiotics….it was common to treat patients by giving them Malaria. Because Malaria gives off fever. However note that malaria fevers do not give high temperatures.

This logic prompted alternative medicine to propose the medically induced fever, which is a costly treatment that supposedly will detox one from several pathogens. Aside that few people qualify for this treatment……it is never successful with spirochetes.

I do not mean to always bring the water to the Lyme crime mill……but this fever topic is worth to explore.

Lets start saying that one of the first symptoms that some people will get when bit by a tick is a fever.

Well a tick is a cesspool of disease and all ticks carry Babesia (cow's malaria) so I am sure Babesia fever is the one that is the red flag along with other pathogens. Borrelia spirochete tend to control body temperature and invade the thyroid and adrenal glands. This is why many Lyme patients (including me) had sore adrenal glands.

Spirochetes probably control also hormones. This is why women are the ones who seem more afflicted by this and tend to go on early menopause.

Spirochete control the body temperature. So often time people with lyme will have low grade fevers. Even with COVID my temperature never went above 101F.

The body response to pathogenic invasion is a fever to kill the pathogen….except spirochetes. Because they fuck up the mechanism….to bluntly put it in vulgaris language.

Inducing a fever will never be equal to having a spontaneous fever.

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Tony C.'s avatar

Nice. I like it. Tick spit is a cesspool of disease. The other first symptom as I gather, is knee pain.

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Knee pain or swollen knee (as described by the CDC)….it is not something everyone gets.

I did not.

Spirochetes are opportunistic pathogens and they favor soft cartilage. Reason why the Lyme town in Connecticut (?) 5 miles air stream from Plum Island Lab was full of children and teenagers with this. Also tend to hit the body parts that are weaker.

Overwhelming FATIGUE is probably a symptom every one has.

Unfortunately a lot of other pathogens give off fatigue so you have to look for the one that is common one.

I would say severe joints pain accompanied by swollen knee is indicative of Borrelia infection. Tremors, vibrations and migraines too.

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Karafree's avatar

Tremors, vibration, migraines, hormones... Shit girl. This is my vibrating brain post. Oh and did i mention i lived on a lake in the forest in north east CT... Witches wood lake. Woodstock valley, CT. TO BE EXACT oh and ive been getting knee pain off and on for years. Recently i thought it was related to taking ascorbic acid supplement.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

The documentary Under Our Skin puts it in perspective:

Connective Tissue is made up of collagen that in its many forms makes up:

skin

bone

ligament

tendon

cartilage

So wherever the banquet is set up is where the victim will find the most symptoms. For some Lupus, etc. it is the skin. For others then it is arthritis which is the first sign of Visna Virus in scandanavian sheep the organism that was used by the Japanese to induce prion disease (Kuru) in the natives of Papua New Guinea.

Is osteoporosis from Tuberculosis or Borellia?

etc., etc., etc.

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Karafree's avatar

what about the skin itself? Premature aging, wrinkles, saging, or dehydrated even with taking plenty of fluids

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

We have to pay attention to what Gilbert Ling said about water mass action through cells. Like an ocean wave that rolls onto the sand then retreats but the sand stays saturated, so too SHOULD human cells have water flow in and out of them UNRESTRICTED. I noticed around 1994 that dehydration had taken over most people regardless of their intake. The ONLY thing that can cause that is derangement of the proteolipid surface of the cell. There is no 'membrane' and there is no 'sodium potassium pump'.

Two things that can cause derangement of the cell suface is damage such as burrowing spirochetes, or nanobacteria mutating the genes that code for that matrix.

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Karafree's avatar

Nanobacteria being? HIB by any chance? So this is nothing to do with loss of collagen? Or growth hormone?

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Nanobacteria are like cat scratch fever, trench fever, brucella, and agrobacterium. HIB is not in the mix.

both borellia lyme and bartonella cat scratch fever EAT COLLAGEN.

Collagen is the matrix scaffold on which all of the connective tissues have different variations:

skin = collagen

ligament = collagen

tendon = collagen

cartilage = collagen

bone = collagen

So, why is arthritis a main feature of SOME incidences of lyme?

Borellia EATS CONNECTIVE TISSUE = ligament, tendon, cartilage.

Why is osteoporosis epidemic?

Borellia EATS CONNECTIVE TISSUE = bone

Why is collagen an OUT OF NOWHERE instant market with infrastructure and markets already in place when the hypnoapes finally realized that their bodies ALREADY HAVE BROKEN DOWN?

SKIN = COLLAGEN.

So, the LOSS of collagen is that we are being eaten from the inside out.

Why were they harvesting growth hormone FROM CADAVER BRAINS AT THE RISK OF PRION DISEASE (Creutzfeldt Jacob swiss cheese brain)?

WHAT PROCESS **TOOK OUT** THE GROWTH HORMONE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Humans are reactive apes with the neural integration of adolescents which is why they can be abused and then forced to pay for the PALLIATIVE for that abuse.

Collagen FIXES NOTHING. At best it merely fills a little more coffee into the cup with the hole in the bottom. At worst it FEEDS THE BUG THAT MADE THE HOLE IN THE CUP!

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…”The Native Americans WRAPPED their kids in blankets to get them to burn and sweat out the buggers quicker.”… this native Slovak have done the same…

when I got sick (muscle/bone ache from the waist down, headache, sinus pressure but not coughing) during COVID I JACKED UP my ELEVATED (that’s literal translation from Slovak) temperature of 102F to a higher point in the hot bath with herbs, Epsom salt and essential oils. Wish I had a sauna. Then jumped in the bed and sweated some more. Within 4 days I was hiking a mountain.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Hell, girl...

I cain't hike a mountain even if'n I twernt sickly!

Tain't menny hills round these parts, 'ceptin' Mount Chicago and Mount Vernon.

Used to be a Mount Eustace but he moved back to Verginny.

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Tony C.'s avatar

Thanks so much for the feedback. The feedback loop how we learn, grow, and improve. This concept applies to work life too. Much appreciated.

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Mahwah Azet's avatar

…THIS SUBSTACK WILL BE PRINTED AND FILED. Revisited for comments and added to the file. ❤️

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

You could just wait for the internet to go down or the cloud to get hacked and then rely on your memory:

"now... did she say spirochets can't stand a temperature of 106... or was that 601 ?"

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

GLOBAL WARMING! GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!

THAT will save us from all of these dred diseases!

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Frances Leader's avatar

Nose bleed is the first sign of electro-magnetic radiation overdose. Were you in close proximity of a 5G tower? It can cause microwave poisoning and will bring on a number of symptoms, depending on the individual. It is cumulative, so be wary of future heavy doses or buy yourself some EMF protection clothing.

https://francesleader.substack.com/p/protecting-yourself-against-electro

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JustANobody's avatar

That was my problem for the last 4 years !! I figured that out. Wear EMF blocking necklace with organite daily. Have the pods in every room and no more nose bleeds! I visited the hospital frequently and they figured out jack shit!!

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

That's a testament to your intelligence and tenacity to figure it out on your own. I've not had good luck with organite. I put some columns in the ground on the farm and for a while it kept the evil neighbors from even stopping by to 'visit' with me but soon faded as warding magicks. It never did anything for chemtrails as some claimed. What pattern do you have the pods aligned in?

The hospital figures out Jack Shit? That's great news. Is he going to be OK. Tell him we send him the best!

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Thank you kindly. I ordered the organite( made with other emf blocking materials too) from a couple in Moracco. They are on many podcasts. The pods are thhe size of your palm and use for around your body area. They sell the ones you are talking about as well. I would have to look up the name for you. It was me by the way who had the bloody nose issues. Started in 2020( towers went up like crazy in CT too). I had to be rushed by ambulance several times. They gave me maxi pads to soak up the blood fromy nose! Shit you not! Anyways 4 years and tons of research later.. I think I qualify as a real healer now! Thanks 4 the kindness. PS.. Hope and Trevon are the EMF site owners, that much I remember right now.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

When's your Made for TV Movie coming out? What hollywood star do you want to play the lead role? I see cross-marketing with the release of the film of T-shirts with the phrase:

I survived (name of Hospital)

but all I got were these

Blood Maxi-pads!

If you tolerate citrus consider eating the white part (pith) of anything like oranges or lemons to strengthen the capillaries with the rutin, hesperidin and bioflavonoids. Vitamin C is more than just ascorbic acid. They fail to tell people that as well. Ascorbic acid alone is a blood thinner.

hmmmm.... I smell a Stack in the air....

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JustANobody's avatar

You are funny! Nope.. No desire to write any Substack articles. I love lemon peels too!

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Nose bleeds are pretty extreme evidence of the power of electromotive force. I know telecom techs who would get dizzy around transmitting wave tubes. How many people suffering from these extreme buildups ever work in a garden and touch the soil?

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