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artermix's avatar

And in that other newer movie there is a Soylent Green type of reference Snow Piercer

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Same Pig different Lip Frost.

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Thank you for put-ink it point by point. It helps. Now I comprehend I practice a deep hypnosis when watch-ink such guys living their in-depend-ant evils on joe-tube. Same here. I re-cycle for other in-depend-ant to re-put-together and throw away... And when finally I am able to put something together myself, not only everybody looks on to me like the biggest fool on the planet but no one wants to touch it be cause if they break it there are only in-depend-ant tools they know they need to buy to help them out.

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the landfill for me was the culture shock of the US…of A. It made me understand much later the mental state of a nation that rather cover their garbage instead than dealing with it. And I mean this in every possible way. Cover the problems, cover up everything. Where you put this? Under the ground of course. Cover it up. It was like a primitive mind, or an underdeveloped brain that could not think beyond “hiding” it. Landfill are more than just garbage under land. It is the brain of a nation who thinks problems are dealt with a cover on top of it. “If you do not see it then you do not have to deal with it” ….a family member once told me these words.

Eventually you will run out of places to cover it and hide it no?

You see it is the quick and dirty way to not dealing with problems. The acceptance of the people living this is very troubling.

Does anybody ask a politician running for any office position “how will you deal with waste disposal?“ . Their answer will tell you what type of person they are.

So now we are back in a circle to the recycling bullshit. You see I come from a country where there is not land field because there is no room to waste for one, and for two we usually deal with waste by seriously recycling. Not saying this is right….er or better…..just saying that in many parts of the world that does not have the luxury to freely rape the land with garbage fillers, we are literally forced to think how we are going to dispose of it.

Once, a long time I read a science fiction novel about a giant hole created from nothing where people begun throwing garbage because things just disappeared inside of it……kinda like a wish the garbage buriers have must be.

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There is no place called "AWAY" where thing can be thrown.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

Some poor pigeon will choke on it!

Long way from the daze of Smokey the bear that prevents forests fires & That Ruff McGruff dawg that prevents littering.... and the crying Italian Indian dude.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Lordy Girl. Showin' your age. They featured the Indian dude in one of the Waynes World movies.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

Yeah...I EARNED every last stinking year!

Indian dude played by an Italian? I have ZERO recollection of Waynes world. LOL

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

The casual mindlessness of litterers whether on foot or dumping their fast food out of cars enrages me.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Sure there is!

Your neighbor's back yard!

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

You need to think of the Big Picture. If you bury garbage then it gives off methane, so you can put pipes in there and then use the methane to run your factories.

I often think of archeologists digging into a trash pile thousands of years from now and marveling at my old undecayed power bill or other artifacts from our uncivilization then writing about what they thought about us and how we supposedly behaved.

No ones talking about the recycler that came up with STARLITE that the military wanted so badly that came from just recyclable materials. So it's probably an untapped gold mine, therefore those big garbage heeps will be the fuel of the Deloreans of Back To The Future for the miners of the next millenia.

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artermix's avatar

Plastic?? What the degradatiin mechanism of action of plastic to change into methane?

I missed that class.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Since garbage dumps in Hamerica are a mix of all sorts of things the decay products put off methane gas under the influence of methanotrobe bacteria. Some dump sites are plumbed to pull off the gas and use it as a fuel source.

There are phthalate-degrading bacteria so at some point UV light and microbial action CAN degrade plastic. Not a full return to the soil but at least broken down. Phthalates are the 'plasticizing' agents that make plastic plyable so when you destroy the crosslinks it make the molecules into smaller bits.

Microplastics probably.

There are studies going on to utilize methanotrobe and other organisms to detoxify things like buried tanks of dry cleaning fluid (cannot be detoxified by any other means) because the buggers eat it as food, completely neutralize it and just give off cow farts.

Here's the thing: There are always solutions whether they are publicized or not but the solutions are COVERED UP (like a landfill) because their object is never to make things better but to hover over that almost-doom spot.

The entire thing about methane in the atmosphere and greenhouse effect is total bullshit as well. Those who studied the HAARP array say that you only have to blast the atmosphere with the frequency that will resonate the CH3 to the point of degredation and then you have carbon and three hydrogen = no more fucking globe hell warming.

See? Simple solution...

well... maybe... we put off methan in our guts so I would imaging that there might be some serious G.I. distress if they didn't focus their beam.

Might end up like the guy eating the mint in the restaurant scene of Monty Python's Meaning of Life.

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Karafree's avatar

one of my first posts here was :

The Incomprehensible Nature of Human Consumption, waste, recklessness, and overwhelming destruction.

Chris Jordan: Running the Numbers www.chrisjordan.com

His work shows the level of destruction by human consumption ARTISTICALLY, if that can be done. HIs work left me speechless. and depressed.

Are they covering it in land fills? only a little bit of it actually.

Most of it is right in front of our faces and we are blind to it.

Where I live they designed a huge regional park, took a year to dig out a lake. Next to the lake is the Wolf River which runs through our city into the mighty Mississippi. IN this beautiful park they built with the lake and smaller ponds, forest, fields and even Buffalo, They put a giant Land fill right next to the river. years later they realized ground water under the land fill was seeping into the river...

they didn't even hide the land fill in our town, no its right there in the huge park, and they even have a motor bike racing competition area right on top of the land fill.

https://karafree.substack.com/p/the-incomprehensible-nature-of-human

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

Most small ski hills were built on top of garbage landfills around my area. At least they are covered....I guess.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

There's a Jonny Cash song in this somewhere..... HURT.

You can have it all...My Empire of DIRT....insert TRASH.

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Karafree's avatar

I suppose that is better than ripping up mountainsides for it.

I was overwhelemed by the commercialism and building that goes on in ski towns out west. this winter, when I decided to join my family for a weekend of skiing. The sport is addicting, enough so that people don't give a shit what they've done to the pristine environment. As much as I love skiing, It's not something I will do again, support it. I'd rather hike. Once you get a few hundred feet in on a trail, there are no more people. The ones that are there are also there to get away from civilization.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

Strapping two 2x4's to yer feets with no breaks supports Rockefeller medicine in a roundabout way :) Lol.

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Karafree's avatar

I didn't see a single rescue while there. but maybe they do it secretively.

So are cars then, and even bicycles, and skateboards, airplanes and well EVERYTHING. If it doesn't kill you it only makes you stronger. LOL

We're all gonna die, some of us like the thrill of tempting it I guess.

for every bite you take, every step you take, every move you make...

IN Memphis what makes driving on the highway dangerous is not how fast you are going in your car, but how many people you pass that might shoot you.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

Yep, I just did STAIRS ...It was my equivalent to thrill seeking. I didn't die & it didn't make me stronger. LOL

I'd like to add to the list of dangerous activities. Eating doof, drinking water, breathing air & bathing in 5g. ... We tempt fate DAILY.... again, I do not feel stronger. <grin>

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Karafree's avatar

did you consider that you are strong as hell.. I mean strong as fuck , I mean strong as um, well, I don't know, but they haven't killed you yet. yea

I edited in every bite... every step...

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Thou art a poetess.

I knew I could count on you for making it real.

I USED to be an adrenaline junkie.

I fixed my adrenals and all of that deth-defying devil might not care stuff went away.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I get my thrills watching other fools destroy themselves on youtube.

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Karafree's avatar

So I was thinking, in relation to no breaks on these boards. The highways and bi ways per my observation are way more dangerous to travel on. Even with breaks in cars, it's up to the Conscious being driving the car to apply the breaks. Same with skiing, the conscious driver of the skies applies the breaks to the skies. It's all about technique. It's all technical in both the car and the ski. The response ABILITY is up to the person driving the car or riding the ski. I rarely see a crash on the slopes. On the TN highways there have been 250 deaths in the first 3 months of 2024

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LMAO!! ONLY YOU!!! Let me irriterate since you brought up ground travel.:

OK, I did the math...IT checks out.. People are fat. Airplanes are heavy & expensive to maintain & fly.

United airlines for example.....COULD fall outta the sky for instance.

If Every passenger just lost just 10 pounds... =10,790 pounds LESS weight per flight.

Airlines would save on fuel ...to the tune of...27.6 million gal per year.

Which factors down to 80 million dollars per year in fuel savings.

WHY did they make METH & cocaine illegal? .. cuzza the demon sprits?

Seems to me...this is a no brainer business move for airlines to get into the dietary supplement industry. (consciously of course)

NO offense to fat people. We all need to do our part to keep the skies safe. Lol

Now onto the HIGHWAY scenario! I was at a DEAD stop when I got slammed into by a drunk driver. Yeah, he was probably close to Unconscious. Point well taken my friend :)

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Karafree's avatar

SEE,, travel by skis the safest.. There are really no fat people on the slopes, maybe a few unconscious

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artermix's avatar

Well if airfares were based on weight AT THE TIME OF BOARDING that be a nice way to save money or an incentive to loose weight. But there is a whole giant industry that would collapse.....the restaurants at the air malls. Also ppl with high BMII could say this is discrimination right??

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artermix's avatar

Omg....the miscalculations of garbage menagement engineering. IDIOTS

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Karafree's avatar

everybody loves the park. I"ve never heard anyone hear talk about the ELEPHANT on the edge of the park. BLIND

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

You've got elephants?

How sweet. Which kind? Indian or African?

What do they do with the elephants in the winter time?

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Karafree's avatar

These are the ones indigenous to small rooms, where they take up most of the space but nobody notices them

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

You're not back on the Sauce again and seeing pachyderms that aren't there are you?

I told you that Tamari is only for those strong enough to take it.

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Karafree's avatar

I think the fumes from the dump caused this hallucination

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Karafree's avatar

joe amish, is the guy who poops in a bucket and recycles it for fuel too!

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artermix's avatar

I wonder what is true or false here......looks like he has electricity for uploading youtube videos

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

One of our Hens just wrote to me that he's not Amish but a Yahoodim (all amish ARE Yahoodim) that lives in a fully modern house and just uploads this stuff for income.

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artermix's avatar

Ahhh......the reality of the fake digital world!!

The only things real ....

Birth

Live life in pain

Disease we cannot cure

Evil

Death

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Ahhhh.... a gurl after me own hart she is!

I dun came to the same list meself, Lassie.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

Actually, Doug & Stacey are homesteaders that moved out there 15 years ago & built their log cabin by hand & added solar panels just a few years ago , They poop in buckets & collect rainwater for showers & such... They are not Amish. He's a yahood by proxy via the re-ligion he follows I guess. He doesn't like THEM anymore than the next guy. ... That's what they claim anyways...

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Iddn't it interesting that we came FULL CIRCLE to my premise based on destroyed solar panels that if you didn't make it, you can't fix it, and that living 'off-grid' with things that were manufactured within, and for, and by The Grid do not qualify?

Here's another Catch 22 that I didn't put in the stack:

So the panels in the first video were destroyed by a hail storm (easily created and geolocated) so if you tried to put on some bullay proof plexi it would reduce the amount of sunlight getting through reducing your power outlet and have even more expense that needed to be recovered over time by the power 'savings' so the whole thing turns into a clusterfuck of attrition.

I looked into solar and just like 'closed circuit cameras' the entire thing is hooked to wifi and the internet so the days of privacy and autonomy are out the bully proof window sew to speak.

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AND they end up in the landfill/ski slope! All those batterie too!

Touche'! They are NOT living off grid.... Thy are high class camping at best. Glamping.

No shit.? Hooked into your WIFI? I won't even get a doorbell thingy.

Not to mention that THEY a blocking out the sun.

When SHTF I don't even want to put a target on my back by running my generator.

Oh yeah, They have a gas well...HUGE tank too! Their not off grid I guess ...at ALL really.

So there's THAT too.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

You never cease to amaze me or make me BLAD = bark like a dog!

High Class Camping!

Jesus on a scooter! I've always HATED camping.

Glamping is so 1980s hairspray rock bands where the guys had bigger hair and more eyeliner than their female groupies.

The doorbell thingy is run THROUGH THE NET THROUGH AMAZON/GOOGLE so it is not a convenience of protecting you from common theives it IS the INTERNET OF THINGS SURVELLIANCE THAT THE 'OWNER' INVITED LIKE A DEMON TO POSSESS THEIR HOUSE.

Where were you when I was composing this stack?

That's the OTHER thing that I should have mentioned when I looked into solar is that even the Ruskies said that geoengineering had reduced the output of solar to make it unreliable or financially unrecoverable.

I'm not opposed to hedging against contingencies, but when the LP and the gasoline and the power and the sun runs out, THEN what are folks going to do?

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artermix's avatar

well you can have a close circuit camera not hooked to wifi because I dealt with that last year at mother’s house. My dad (now dead) mounted it 20 years ago. Direct hard wire that hooks up to back of TV screen on hook up called “vid”.

It is straight forward old fashion steady camera that is on the street. We laugh at my mom because she switches between that and tv channel. And NO tv is. not cable in Italy but digital antenna.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Therein lies the problem in the Ewe Knighted States of Schumeria.

20 years ago you might have been able to get a non-wifi system here, but every time I type in wired closed circuit it will only give returns for cameras where the POWER is wired but the video/audio signal is wifi only.

It's called The Technology Trap.

If you want what they've got you have to take what they sell you or do without.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

mankind has spent its entire history getting away from emptying their buckets out of second story windows onto the street and these fools want to get BACK to that.

There were flush toilets in Islamic Spain in the 1300s.

Devolution.

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artermix's avatar

In the ancient Rome they had hot water in pipes. And public baths with pools.....

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

yeah, yeah, yeah... ancient Rome... hot water.

Here in AMERICA we have Hot Water HEATERS!

Now THAT'S Modernity!

I doubt Rome had Jumbo Shrimp or Military Intelligence.

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Gwyneth's avatar

Why do you think they made Soylent green?

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artermix's avatar

Ha ha ha.....I love that movie.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Because Soylent fuscia didn't go with the couch and carpets?

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Gwyneth's avatar

Goofus

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Isn't goofus backwards in chinese for Wise Mastah? or Sum Ting likah dat?

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artermix's avatar

Maybe actually beginning recycling and stopping plastic production would literallymake people understand.

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