For those who have followed me for a while you might recall that the year before my cherry tree up and dyed everything including the fruit started smelling like Cheddar Cheese.
There was a strange delay between massive blossoms and fruit set here when the pharmwhores were delayed in their poison spraying due to constant rain. I know that pollinators don't like to do their migrant labor in the rain, but I've never seen such a lag between blossoms and fruit set. When the fruit did set it was the biggest crop I've ever seen. When the chemicals came back then the fruit drop happened but not to a level that affected the bumper crop.
My quince didn't show any fruit set at all but recently I found two soft-ball sized yellow quince with rotten bottoms laying at the bottom of the tree. I don't know how something like that was no visible from the ground while growing.
The Army Field Manual from the 1930s says that if you enter an area but don't hear bird song or insects to enter with caution. If you see them dead on the ground DO NOT ENTER.
Several years ago Spring was unseasonably warm the trees budded flowered, then the bastards hit the FREEZE button, it reset the counter to zero and then within 2 days it was back to abnormal.
I just sat down after having spent a good part of my day into evening trimming back and disposing branches from my 35-foot row of 100+ year-old lilac trees. Am picking those 'watermelon-like seeds' from my hair as I type (well, kinda). Anyway, Northern Minnesota here, and my lilac trees as well as my neighbor's got hit by some nefarious slow kill chemical concoction from above sometime back in early August. It's like whatever it was the effers sprayed just sucked every drop of moisture from the foliage. Another neighbor and I were talking earlier, wondering where all the songbirds are; have only seen one late-summer robin return where she told me she has seen two. Otherwise, my apple trees are doing alright: no cheesy or toe fungus smell, lol. My kids call me "shark-nose," so come harvest time I will be sure to sniff. Anyway, thanks so much for an interesting read, Patrick Jordan!
THIRTY FIVE FEET of relatives of the Olive species. Ours are in their late 80s.
Are you close to farmland? Or do you think it was chemtrails?
Now that you mention it the birds have been absent. Only within the past few days have I heard a bluejay.
Are these chemicals selective to genus and family such as the difference between apples and lilacs? The apple tree is as old as the lilacs otherwise I would suspect that they are wiping out legacy lifeforms.
When do your apples come in?
Mine have been falling off the tree ripe and unripe, but I remember many seasons where a red delicious didn't come into its own unless there was a cold snap.
My lilac bush has curled leaves. I can't see any bugs on the back of the leaf.
Expert Response
Your lilac leaves' symptoms (cupping, distortion) suggest that they've been exposed to some airborne 2,4-D herbicide. There are many herbicide products that contain 2,4-D.
It's likely that someone in your neighborhood has used 2,4-D herbicide to kill weeds in their lawn. If sprayed on a hot day, 2,4-D can volatilize (become a gas) and drift, often for several hundred yards.
Lilacs are pretty sensitive to 2,4-D drift, as are other trees/shrubs like redbud, hackberry, catalpa, aspen, linden, green ash, Amur maple and boxelder. Other very sensitive plants include grape and tomato.
Usually, the amount of airborne 2,4-D that causes these symptoms is not lethal to the affected tree or shrub.
YES! I was smitten with the lilac trees back when I first bought my house some 30-years ago and was soon pleased to learn that they are indeed related to the 'o-live', 'i-love' tree. It's never even occurred to me, though, to offer up a lilac branch to fend off foes (such as the mayor and police) and or shitty neighbors of the drug-trafficking type, of which the mayor and chief (of police) seem suspiciously, umm, let's just say 'closely affiliated'. When I first noticed the wilting foliage I immediately figured there had been some dousing from the skies, as opposed to, say, acid rain (essentially the same as chemspray – essentially just watered down fallout) or drifted roundup. However, none of my other trees and veggie and flower gardens were affected. So, yes, my guess is that the legacy lifeforms (as you so eloquently state), unlike the genetically altered 'aluminum resistant' hybrids, were left vulnerable and helpless.
My apples are a Dolgo Crab hybrid – 25-years old, with big 2"-plus sweet-tarty apples. I bit into one just the other day; it was tasty but no cold snap frost yet so still not quite ready for harvest and canning. Maybe next week when early morning temps begin to dip into the 30s and 40s.
Anyway, thank you for your responses! Judging by the overall health of my Summer of 2024 Defoliated Lilac Trees, Compliments of the u.s. gov and its lessor affiliates, I do believe they survived and that I will see more blooms in the many more Springtimes to come! If similarly assaulted come August 2025, I promise to have words with the maniacal dirtbags involved. Lol, if not retaliation then certainly some recompense – Eh?!
When I have to thin deadwood in the bushes I like to burn it because it has a very unique odor.
When my chemical allergies were at their worst I could not tolerate the smell of lilacs. They made me instantly and powerfully ill. After I cleaned my liver it ceased being bad, and only these last two years did I understand why my mother liked the smell.
I tried growing a Grannie Smith. The tree died. When I was looking into why it died I found out that the ONLY way to get the famous mouth-cringing tartness of the permanently green goblins is to have a crab apple in the same yard. That's how the real Grannie Smith of Oz did it.
Today I can eat a half a back of pathetic little golf balls and not even get a tang out of them. Back in the 1960s you couldn't finish a caramel apple with a grannie inside because it would give you lock-jaw.
Along with my lilacs the lilly of the valley beneath them took a massive hit. Yellow leaves with brown streaks.
These freaks need to be served cocktails of their potions on the rocks.
I worked in a semiconductor plant where there were chlorine, boron trifluoride, and selenium gas sensor/alarms.
The last two you won't survive so there's no point for the alarm - wouldn't make a difference.
The chlorine has an escape threshold.
If I smelled chlorine I would tell the fab-workers that I there was a leak. But people would look at the alarms and like all mouth-breathers they would say: "We don't smell anything." Then like a sit-com cue the alarms would go off and everyone would run out of the fab.
In each case it was maintenance putting bleach in the cooling tanks for the air handlers to control algae, then the smell got into the clean room.
They called me The Canary after those incidences and never questioned after that.
In the past ten years I had to test water for chlorine residue where the test strips were sensitive below what we're accustomed to hearing in PPB, so the threshold is in parts per trillion. I could detect the chlorine by smell that was confirmed by test strips at PPT.
These 'gifts' are from a lifetime of chemical allergy where it is a survival trait to be able to sense danger before it causes harm. It's like a blind person that relies on other senses to protect them.
Poor sense of smell can be from bad sinuses or mineral deficiency.
Mine is very good but it is hellish. I am smell sensitive to a shit load of stuff and expecially industrial and artificial fragrances. Traveling is hell for me. I smell everything. Paris airport smelled like burned milk and some designer fragrance until I boarded the next flight. The flight from Atlanta to Paris smelled like boiled tomatoes…..and what you know….the meal was some pasta with tomatoes. I had none of it because I rarely eat in flight.
Walking in the streets is another hell of smells from aggressive to super-aggressive fragrances, there must be a certain male fragrance world wide that is designed with a special poison. Patrick wrote in a chapter of one of his books about l’Oreal fragrances.
Going through an airport ….forced passage through the shit air-mall of duty free, overpriced crap is like a circle of Dante’s hell.
The bulk of humanity are mouth-breathers and they have been trained to clap like an otter at the smell of musk instead of the smell of a woman.
My definition of Hell is that it STINKS.
There are colorless, odorless, tasteless compounds out there that are extremely dangerous. Regardless of whether you can smell them or not they can still affect your brain directly and some chemicals could almost make me pass out before I fixed my liver and brain. (OK, some will say different about my brain...)
And some people can not understand how they make oxalate in their liver and is not just from eaten vegetables and fruits. It is because the fungus on plants (aspergillus) gets into the liver where it combines with Vitamin C ascorbic acid to make Oxalate crystals while you sleep. Oxalates are mostly endogenous not from external sources. For those who don't know what oxalates are - think kidney stones but everywhere.
You are absolutely correct Wayne. So Aspergillus seems also the cause of one of my unirateral ocular myalgia. I suspect a dorment spore that is awaken when certain conditions are met.
If our lymphatics are impaired then microbes and chemicals can be sequestered in nodes but not processed. All you need is punctal stenosis (swelling shut of the tear duct and a backed up lymph anywhere around the eye and that nasty can do damage anytime or all the time. Aspergillus is notorious for alflatoxin that is a quality liver carcinogen. Liver is considered WOOD in the chinese system. Wood is synonymous with EYE in chinese.
Given that you were a crystal depositor that would have made the Federal Rerserve jealouse... it is important to add that there are concretions that can happen inside and on lymphatic tissue. Tonsil stones happen in the crypts of those organs, but I've seen x-ray reports that talk about concretions inside the nodes inside the body cavity.
The Lymph was always my primary target but it is the last one to tackle.
Unless you do a parasite and bowel cleanse, you can't clean the liver. If you don't clean the liver then you can't clean the lymph. Although I have the sinus focal infections that I have tried many things on, my submandibular lymph nodes that were swollen since I was 13 shrunk on their own at the end of my 4 years of liver cleanses. That was a plus. But it made sense.
There are only 3 things that I know that can thin lymph (and bile) to try to make it flow better, but bear in mind that if you have log-jams in the nodes or vessels that no amount of thinning will make a difference:
alcohol
turpentine
essential oil of citrus fruits.
Legend is that B6/P5P helps to keep it thin once you get there.
I don't use alcohol. I refuse to take turpentine, so I traded for pine nut oil with cedar resin but some remedies are too powerful for me so I put that aside. Tha only leaves the essential oil and if you take it straight in food or drink it can strip your throat raw so be joo dish us when using it.
There is a wild card variable involved with Endogenous Oxalate: Candida Yeast. As soon as I learned to control the Candida by occasionally taking very low dose turpentine, eating low glycemic carbs (like Basmati white rice), augmented with Apple Cider Vinegar/Vermouth Wine/Bitters before meals, I started getting the neuropathy, arthritis, brain fog, fatigue, to almost vanish. I have learned to stay clear of anything that is powdery or flowery which has a high glycemic level. Candida is another fungus that makes endogenous oxalates.
Another revelation of mine: I stopped taking any supplement in capsules (powder) as it feeds Candida. So Tablets or Liquid for any supplements do not feed the Candida.
When you say capsules I think of gelatin or vegetable cellulose. Cellulose is the very thing that candida was a commensurate in our guts to WORK FOR US to break down that monosaccharide falsely called 'fiber'. After WWII Japan candida started its trek into pathogen territory.
Thank You Patrick ….this is a very interesting and educational write up. Thanks for posting this. My crop was crap this year as well and I have this red flies infestation …Lantern Flies….they suck the life out of specific plants. My butternut squash did well. The jalapenos are almost sterile. My husband like those but not much luck. I was also invaded with that flea beetle that seem to favor horseradish plant. I eradicated the entire plant and treated the soil with copius ammount of DE but the plant came back and so did the flea beetle that seems to like only that plant out of my herbs garden. Impossible to grow any brassica family.
The ONLY thing that I have found on sterile peppers is that they require RED SPECTRUM light to signal fruit production. I think all of my grow lamps are blue weighted (of course they are). Haven't gotten around to sourcing different lights since incandescents were outlawed and I don't trust LEDS and LEDs are insanely expensive and unrelliable.
Flea beetles are nasty and they can reservoir in a lot of other plants. The only thing for those is soapy water and essential oil. Be careful to not kill your plants with the spray.
that's just damned scary my friend!
There was a strange delay between massive blossoms and fruit set here when the pharmwhores were delayed in their poison spraying due to constant rain. I know that pollinators don't like to do their migrant labor in the rain, but I've never seen such a lag between blossoms and fruit set. When the fruit did set it was the biggest crop I've ever seen. When the chemicals came back then the fruit drop happened but not to a level that affected the bumper crop.
My quince didn't show any fruit set at all but recently I found two soft-ball sized yellow quince with rotten bottoms laying at the bottom of the tree. I don't know how something like that was no visible from the ground while growing.
The Army Field Manual from the 1930s says that if you enter an area but don't hear bird song or insects to enter with caution. If you see them dead on the ground DO NOT ENTER.
We are entering the DO NOT ENTER Stage.
They mix it up which is a strategy of wharf air.
Several years ago Spring was unseasonably warm the trees budded flowered, then the bastards hit the FREEZE button, it reset the counter to zero and then within 2 days it was back to abnormal.
Our plums gave us the biggest bumper crop of their lives right before they died too the next year.
that's sad to hear.
I just sat down after having spent a good part of my day into evening trimming back and disposing branches from my 35-foot row of 100+ year-old lilac trees. Am picking those 'watermelon-like seeds' from my hair as I type (well, kinda). Anyway, Northern Minnesota here, and my lilac trees as well as my neighbor's got hit by some nefarious slow kill chemical concoction from above sometime back in early August. It's like whatever it was the effers sprayed just sucked every drop of moisture from the foliage. Another neighbor and I were talking earlier, wondering where all the songbirds are; have only seen one late-summer robin return where she told me she has seen two. Otherwise, my apple trees are doing alright: no cheesy or toe fungus smell, lol. My kids call me "shark-nose," so come harvest time I will be sure to sniff. Anyway, thanks so much for an interesting read, Patrick Jordan!
Holy Apple Jacks!
THIRTY FIVE FEET of relatives of the Olive species. Ours are in their late 80s.
Are you close to farmland? Or do you think it was chemtrails?
Now that you mention it the birds have been absent. Only within the past few days have I heard a bluejay.
Are these chemicals selective to genus and family such as the difference between apples and lilacs? The apple tree is as old as the lilacs otherwise I would suspect that they are wiping out legacy lifeforms.
When do your apples come in?
Mine have been falling off the tree ripe and unripe, but I remember many seasons where a red delicious didn't come into its own unless there was a cold snap.
No cold and no snap.
Keep us posted.
Unhappy Lilac Bush #316244
Asked April 25, 2016, 2:46 PM EDT
My lilac bush has curled leaves. I can't see any bugs on the back of the leaf.
Expert Response
Your lilac leaves' symptoms (cupping, distortion) suggest that they've been exposed to some airborne 2,4-D herbicide. There are many herbicide products that contain 2,4-D.
It's likely that someone in your neighborhood has used 2,4-D herbicide to kill weeds in their lawn. If sprayed on a hot day, 2,4-D can volatilize (become a gas) and drift, often for several hundred yards.
Lilacs are pretty sensitive to 2,4-D drift, as are other trees/shrubs like redbud, hackberry, catalpa, aspen, linden, green ash, Amur maple and boxelder. Other very sensitive plants include grape and tomato.
Usually, the amount of airborne 2,4-D that causes these symptoms is not lethal to the affected tree or shrub.
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Yeah... tell that to the Shrubbery.
YES! I was smitten with the lilac trees back when I first bought my house some 30-years ago and was soon pleased to learn that they are indeed related to the 'o-live', 'i-love' tree. It's never even occurred to me, though, to offer up a lilac branch to fend off foes (such as the mayor and police) and or shitty neighbors of the drug-trafficking type, of which the mayor and chief (of police) seem suspiciously, umm, let's just say 'closely affiliated'. When I first noticed the wilting foliage I immediately figured there had been some dousing from the skies, as opposed to, say, acid rain (essentially the same as chemspray – essentially just watered down fallout) or drifted roundup. However, none of my other trees and veggie and flower gardens were affected. So, yes, my guess is that the legacy lifeforms (as you so eloquently state), unlike the genetically altered 'aluminum resistant' hybrids, were left vulnerable and helpless.
My apples are a Dolgo Crab hybrid – 25-years old, with big 2"-plus sweet-tarty apples. I bit into one just the other day; it was tasty but no cold snap frost yet so still not quite ready for harvest and canning. Maybe next week when early morning temps begin to dip into the 30s and 40s.
Anyway, thank you for your responses! Judging by the overall health of my Summer of 2024 Defoliated Lilac Trees, Compliments of the u.s. gov and its lessor affiliates, I do believe they survived and that I will see more blooms in the many more Springtimes to come! If similarly assaulted come August 2025, I promise to have words with the maniacal dirtbags involved. Lol, if not retaliation then certainly some recompense – Eh?!
When I have to thin deadwood in the bushes I like to burn it because it has a very unique odor.
When my chemical allergies were at their worst I could not tolerate the smell of lilacs. They made me instantly and powerfully ill. After I cleaned my liver it ceased being bad, and only these last two years did I understand why my mother liked the smell.
I tried growing a Grannie Smith. The tree died. When I was looking into why it died I found out that the ONLY way to get the famous mouth-cringing tartness of the permanently green goblins is to have a crab apple in the same yard. That's how the real Grannie Smith of Oz did it.
Today I can eat a half a back of pathetic little golf balls and not even get a tang out of them. Back in the 1960s you couldn't finish a caramel apple with a grannie inside because it would give you lock-jaw.
Along with my lilacs the lilly of the valley beneath them took a massive hit. Yellow leaves with brown streaks.
These freaks need to be served cocktails of their potions on the rocks.
You can smell parts per trillion? Wow? Is that even possible?
You sure you are not part bloodhound?
My sense of smell is very poor.
I worked in a semiconductor plant where there were chlorine, boron trifluoride, and selenium gas sensor/alarms.
The last two you won't survive so there's no point for the alarm - wouldn't make a difference.
The chlorine has an escape threshold.
If I smelled chlorine I would tell the fab-workers that I there was a leak. But people would look at the alarms and like all mouth-breathers they would say: "We don't smell anything." Then like a sit-com cue the alarms would go off and everyone would run out of the fab.
In each case it was maintenance putting bleach in the cooling tanks for the air handlers to control algae, then the smell got into the clean room.
They called me The Canary after those incidences and never questioned after that.
In the past ten years I had to test water for chlorine residue where the test strips were sensitive below what we're accustomed to hearing in PPB, so the threshold is in parts per trillion. I could detect the chlorine by smell that was confirmed by test strips at PPT.
These 'gifts' are from a lifetime of chemical allergy where it is a survival trait to be able to sense danger before it causes harm. It's like a blind person that relies on other senses to protect them.
Poor sense of smell can be from bad sinuses or mineral deficiency.
Mine is very good but it is hellish. I am smell sensitive to a shit load of stuff and expecially industrial and artificial fragrances. Traveling is hell for me. I smell everything. Paris airport smelled like burned milk and some designer fragrance until I boarded the next flight. The flight from Atlanta to Paris smelled like boiled tomatoes…..and what you know….the meal was some pasta with tomatoes. I had none of it because I rarely eat in flight.
Walking in the streets is another hell of smells from aggressive to super-aggressive fragrances, there must be a certain male fragrance world wide that is designed with a special poison. Patrick wrote in a chapter of one of his books about l’Oreal fragrances.
Going through an airport ….forced passage through the shit air-mall of duty free, overpriced crap is like a circle of Dante’s hell.
The bulk of humanity are mouth-breathers and they have been trained to clap like an otter at the smell of musk instead of the smell of a woman.
My definition of Hell is that it STINKS.
There are colorless, odorless, tasteless compounds out there that are extremely dangerous. Regardless of whether you can smell them or not they can still affect your brain directly and some chemicals could almost make me pass out before I fixed my liver and brain. (OK, some will say different about my brain...)
Those mouth breathers!! They freaking snore
you know what works well for snoring?
quick-set epoxy.
Lol.....ha ha ha......i hope it is a joke
ha... ha... ha...
JOKE?
yeah, don't try this at home...
pee ess: besides structural defects of the throat and sinuses, often snoring and apnea can be from a bad thyroid.
I gave a fellow some nascent iodine when I found out he had apnea.
Later he told me he was on a CPAP machine to sleep at night.
I asked him if he took the iodine that I gave him.
Iodine?
I have never GIVEN anything to anybody since.
And some people can not understand how they make oxalate in their liver and is not just from eaten vegetables and fruits. It is because the fungus on plants (aspergillus) gets into the liver where it combines with Vitamin C ascorbic acid to make Oxalate crystals while you sleep. Oxalates are mostly endogenous not from external sources. For those who don't know what oxalates are - think kidney stones but everywhere.
Theres a guru named Sandman who once said: "NOTHING occurs in ISOLATION."
Makes perfect sense that Fungus would be part of the overall picture.
AGREE.
LIKE POST ….sorry on my laptop does not work.
You are absolutely correct Wayne. So Aspergillus seems also the cause of one of my unirateral ocular myalgia. I suspect a dorment spore that is awaken when certain conditions are met.
If our lymphatics are impaired then microbes and chemicals can be sequestered in nodes but not processed. All you need is punctal stenosis (swelling shut of the tear duct and a backed up lymph anywhere around the eye and that nasty can do damage anytime or all the time. Aspergillus is notorious for alflatoxin that is a quality liver carcinogen. Liver is considered WOOD in the chinese system. Wood is synonymous with EYE in chinese.
Thanks for this Pat.
Given that you were a crystal depositor that would have made the Federal Rerserve jealouse... it is important to add that there are concretions that can happen inside and on lymphatic tissue. Tonsil stones happen in the crypts of those organs, but I've seen x-ray reports that talk about concretions inside the nodes inside the body cavity.
How we get lymphatic system cleaned up.
......i do know aspergillus us carcinogenic in all creatures
All creatures Great & Small?
The Lymph was always my primary target but it is the last one to tackle.
Unless you do a parasite and bowel cleanse, you can't clean the liver. If you don't clean the liver then you can't clean the lymph. Although I have the sinus focal infections that I have tried many things on, my submandibular lymph nodes that were swollen since I was 13 shrunk on their own at the end of my 4 years of liver cleanses. That was a plus. But it made sense.
There are only 3 things that I know that can thin lymph (and bile) to try to make it flow better, but bear in mind that if you have log-jams in the nodes or vessels that no amount of thinning will make a difference:
alcohol
turpentine
essential oil of citrus fruits.
Legend is that B6/P5P helps to keep it thin once you get there.
I don't use alcohol. I refuse to take turpentine, so I traded for pine nut oil with cedar resin but some remedies are too powerful for me so I put that aside. Tha only leaves the essential oil and if you take it straight in food or drink it can strip your throat raw so be joo dish us when using it.
There is a wild card variable involved with Endogenous Oxalate: Candida Yeast. As soon as I learned to control the Candida by occasionally taking very low dose turpentine, eating low glycemic carbs (like Basmati white rice), augmented with Apple Cider Vinegar/Vermouth Wine/Bitters before meals, I started getting the neuropathy, arthritis, brain fog, fatigue, to almost vanish. I have learned to stay clear of anything that is powdery or flowery which has a high glycemic level. Candida is another fungus that makes endogenous oxalates.
Since my book Doof of the Dogs has large portions about Candida as made in the lab, my mind always goes: WHICH candida are you referring to?
Another revelation of mine: I stopped taking any supplement in capsules (powder) as it feeds Candida. So Tablets or Liquid for any supplements do not feed the Candida.
When you say capsules I think of gelatin or vegetable cellulose. Cellulose is the very thing that candida was a commensurate in our guts to WORK FOR US to break down that monosaccharide falsely called 'fiber'. After WWII Japan candida started its trek into pathogen territory.
Be careful. Eye pain in one eye may be a dental infection that could lead to sepsis.
Def not that. I had it for almost a decade....this is headache migraine that moves around.
The only time that I got 'migraines' was when I was toxic and my appendix reacted.
I think that teeth are an invention for exceedingly cruel ways to torture us.
Thank You Patrick ….this is a very interesting and educational write up. Thanks for posting this. My crop was crap this year as well and I have this red flies infestation …Lantern Flies….they suck the life out of specific plants. My butternut squash did well. The jalapenos are almost sterile. My husband like those but not much luck. I was also invaded with that flea beetle that seem to favor horseradish plant. I eradicated the entire plant and treated the soil with copius ammount of DE but the plant came back and so did the flea beetle that seems to like only that plant out of my herbs garden. Impossible to grow any brassica family.
https://thekidshouldseethis.com/post/rachel-bergey-invasive-spotted-lanternfly-trap-video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjOKIOOw1ZA
The ONLY thing that I have found on sterile peppers is that they require RED SPECTRUM light to signal fruit production. I think all of my grow lamps are blue weighted (of course they are). Haven't gotten around to sourcing different lights since incandescents were outlawed and I don't trust LEDS and LEDs are insanely expensive and unrelliable.
Flea beetles are nasty and they can reservoir in a lot of other plants. The only thing for those is soapy water and essential oil. Be careful to not kill your plants with the spray.