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Mahwah Azet's avatar

...speaking of stoned..."Too high to fly" swans in Slovakia got in to a poppy field and got high, now they have to go through rehab. Swans are protected birds in Slovakia https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ct82-OdI2zd/

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Grounded for drug use. My prescription book says it is a disqualification for pilots.

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

What is urease also known as? Urease also known as CARBAMIDE – American Chemical Society

A-C CARBAMIDE - 270 CAPSULES

BY STANDARD PROCESS, $64.90

CARBAMIDE FORTE PURE EXTRA VIRGIN COLD PRESSED COCONUT OIL - 200 ML $11.14

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I took Standard Process urine in the 1990s before it was unaffordable.

I can't remember if they were selling bull piss or not.

Urea = Carbamide = Urine.

Urease is the enzyme that splits it into ammonia and carbon dioxide.

I was shocked and disgusted when I found that a common trick in doctor's offices with that bathroom with the little door at the side to get a urine sample from the bathroom to the backroom was just a Shuck & Jive trick where you would put the cup in the little pass through and then they would put in another cup with a 'remedy' that the doctor wanted you to drink.

THEY SIMPLY PUT YOUR PISS IN A DIFFERENT CONTAINER.

Drinking urine and eating feces has deep roots in witchkraft and even the puritan witch Cotton Mather preached its 'benefits' from the pulpit (as he did that of variolation).

My life is so toxic that I would probably kill myself with my own Ureen so I never tried it and I never will. Seeing the price of piss these days, I'm thinking of just bottling it up and seeing what I can get for it on the open market.

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Libertarian's avatar

Remember the best seller “Premarin”?!! For “Pregnant Mare Urine”. Made billions. 😂😂

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brandi's avatar

How are some folks correcting the thiamine deficiency

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

If you follow the work of Elliot Overton the process can be problematic:

Some benefit from MASSIVE thiamine doses to overcome the intracellular deficiency IF AND ONLY IF you can get it into the cells. Once there you still need Magnesium for it to work properly IF AND ONLY IF you can take the phosphate group off before it enters the cell and then put it back on once it enters.

So, this is why the Japanese invented a form that tricks it into the cell without that metabolic step. But I have a problem with cell surface (there is no membrane) trickery. It's not natural and anything that crosses the blood brain barrier concerns me greatly.

Then there's the crowd who MUST start the thiamine slowly to UPREGULATE the enzymes that handle the vitamin that were underproduced because there wasn't any vitamin there to handle. That is a long process that takes a month or more. Magnesium in that case can MAKE YOU SICK.

Thiamine mononitrate is probably a carcinogen.

Thiamine HCL is the commercial grade stuff that is passable in a pinch.

Thiamine di-phosphate = pyrophosphate = cocarboxalase is the ACTIVE form that can go directly into extracellular pathways and maybe make it into the cell if you're not too messed up. It is my preferred form.

BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS EAT GARLIC BECAUSE THE SUPPLEMENT ALLITHIAMINE IS JUST A GARLIC DERIVATIVE. Why pay for a supplement when you can just have bad breath?

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brandi's avatar

I have found that the magnesium spray has been the most gentle way to slowly increase without ramping everything up too quickly.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

What brand and where does it come from?

People already think that I'm a germaphobe and that I'm paranoid (I'm not but I do have a pair of Noids). I got some magnesium hexachloride as a free sample once and looked up the company. It is pulled from a deep well in the Balkins. My concern is: Has it been tested for Archaea or other exotic microbes that haven't seen the light of day since whenever you think the earth was formed?

The problem for me being:

The alternut world is no different than allopathy. They are making us pay to experiment on ourselves without full disclosure.

This is why I toss out the germaphobe/paranoid label. I am literally the ONLY person on the planet who knew that Walter Reed was a fraud trying to invent Informed Consent because if:

- no one tested for microbes in the Magnesium Oil then you wouldn't know what was in the brine.

- IT'S NOT OIL. It's hexachloride so it feels oily. If they can't label a product right then what else can't I trust the company with?

- It came out of nowhere and there are no long term studies on its use. Conversely Epsom Salts are a magnesium sulfate that has been around for a couple centuries of scrutinized use. I'm thinking of trying a foot soak for a slow leak because i can't tolerate them internally.

I appreciate and encourage any and all input.

I'm just giving the Paul Harvey Rest Of The Story when it is never provided by anyone on anything. So don't take what I post personally. Cheers.

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brandi's avatar

I have no way of determining if we haven't already released ancient microbes that wiped out earlier existence of our former selves. But I was also sick enough to not have the luxury to scrutinize any of this stuff I simply had a choice of experimenting and if I died then I died.

I was using magnesium chloride reagent powder topically and what I found is it allowed me to slowly absorb magnesium without disturbing the GI tract.

The lab findings indicated that after improving the magnesium levels it allowed for a better balance between potassium and sodium and other electrolytes.

I'm sure the magnesium feeds lots of pathogenic microbes but I don't believe in the strategy of starving yourself to starve your enemy

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

ahhhh.... you see? You went the route of purified chemicals rather than someone pulling up sludge from their backyard in europe! I've lived chemistry so it has its place. Most people would freek if they knew how many of their supplements were either synthetic or grown by GMO bugs. Your answer helps a lot.

The Alternut product hype so dominates the mind that I never thought to look for USP or reagent grade chemicals. It makes sense.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Regarding your statemen of faith: I'm too skinny to starve anything including my hitchhikers. I would rather just eat what I eat and take what I take and then when they are destroyed I will know that fancy diet manipulations were just more revenue stealing palliations to keep the sheep grazing. These creatures have been adapted by DARPA to survive as extremeophiles so there's really no way to starve something that lives in reactor pools and has 3 copies of its DNA.

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

Those of us who have oxalosis often also have pseudo-gout. Maybe now we know why. Gout is connected with uric acid accumulation from purines.

URONIC Acid Rich Proteins inhibit calcium oxalate but HyalURONIC Acid promotes calcium oxalate.

Read below

As far as urolithiasis is concerned, two urinary macromolecules related to IαI have been isolated and shown to be potent inhibitors of calcium oxalate formation. One of these inhibitors, uronic-acid-rich protein (UAP), has been identified and well characterized. Sources of Uronic Acid Rich Protein (UAP) are pectin, seaweed.

SOURCE: https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/microscopy/vol10/iss2/11

Conversely, hyaluronic acid (HA) > 10 ng/ml promotes calcium oxalate crystal growth. Hyaluronic Acid is a joint supplement used extensively in race horses.

Natural Sources of HA = tofu, almonds, oranges, kale, sweet potatoes, soy

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0887233322000170

SANDMAN

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I KNEW that you would come through with something amazing.

There was a big trend in veterinary for dogs with degrading joints to use HA. There was a nasal spray with xylitol and HA that I tried that was supposed to be a miracle to clear up sinus problems and get the HA directly into the blood stream.

I later heard about the race horses as well. But the one thing to keep in focus is that all of these Classes of Mammals have UNIQUE physiology that is NOT comparable to humans.

Mark 5:26 "And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse," King James Version

Then when I found that I was not getting results and maybe even having bad effects you find that HA is also a component in insect venom so that if you get stung you can literally have an immune response to proteins like HA and Histamine which might be an additional factor in why we are so messed up and resist fixing.

I wonder how many people (like me) were tricked into trying HA WITHOUT FULL DISCLOSURE and were made worse?

I tried to increase my intake of seaweed but I don't know what the threshold is so at my normal consumption rate I did not see any improvement but there were decades when I couldn't tolerate putting it to my lips without a reaction. These days I can currently eat it a normal amounts. Pectin from apples I think is a foundational health substance.

I have a problem with citations on the content of a substances in foods. The USDA is OK but not consistent with whether the foods listed are raw, or cooked. It makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE even with cooking methods. Oranges are consumed raw unless they are made into commercial juice, pasteurized, have their flavor elements removed for freeze-storing and then a flavoring agent put back in when ready for sale. So where does the HA go?

Almonds are sterilized in the US. Some nutters eat Kale raw.

The UAP thing is very delicate to examine. I have written extensively on what I call McGyver Booby Traps and Failsafes that they wired into what they did to us and what they offer as remedies. UAP might help with keeping oxalic acid in solution but it is a Serine Protease inhibitor which is a dangerous thing to play with in the days of Mad Cow (necessary for the last step in prion degredation) and post Wuhan Weapon where this same enzyme is said to break up the horrors that they put in the shots.

Damned if you do - damned if you don't.

I'll stick with garlic for now to keep the urease at bay so that the oxalic acid stays in solution.

Thanks for the links

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Nanc's avatar

Once again my absolute favorite veggie, the “stinky rose” keeps on shining. I’ve been eating 3 cloves a day because I love the stuff, that added health benefits are just one nice big fat bonus with a serious gut punch the allopathic sick care model.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Where do you get your stinky roses from?

I tend to buy a pound of spices/herbs at a time and I got one bag that left a bad taste if you used them uncooked. Like they had some kind of bad bug on them.

Cloves are unique in their ability to dissolve parasite eggs/cysts. So I would like to get back to the pure oil/synergysm of uncooked cloves.

Do they numb your tongue and gums? (I accidentally typed bums).

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Nanc's avatar

I get my stinky roses from an Amish co-op I belong to. In fact I got two more pounds ordered for next week. I know it sounds like a lot of garlic, but not for me. I am going to try to grow some this year, in the fall. In a pinch and I’m going to hell for this…..you can get organic garlic that’s of good quality on Amazon Fresh. As much as I hate 🐝 zulbub, you can get some good fresh foods from them.

I use garlic in just about everything, drove my late Italian husband crazy, lol 😂. Imagine marrying a a beautiful Italian hunk, who hates garlic???? Yep, it was like I stepped into the twilight zone in those days. Yet, he ate way more garlic than he knew, lol 😂.

No it does not burn, although some cloves are definitely spicier with some heat, no burning.

I do start my day with one fully squeezed organic lemon in 24oz of warm distilled water. This is what allows me to eat all this garlic and hot peppers without any heartburn.

Who knew heartburn was from the lack of stomach acid, rather than too much?

Our bodies are amazing. Got a whole family all with kidney stone problems except me, weird, nah I just eat and drink differently. Food is one terrific healer, and I’m a true Hippocrates follower.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Whoah! We had a true Chris Tucker/Jackie Chan moment.

I take the word: Cloves literally to mean: Cloves.

I thought Stinky Rose was slang for the clove spice.

That's the thing that I though was contaminated. I grow my own garlic so I would eat it raw, sauteed, boiled, baked any way you can get it in. One of the best written science papers I've read was on the myths surrounding garlic preparation. conclusion: JUST EAT GARLIC.

For the record I couldn't imagine marrying a man, regardless of his ethnicity or propensity for garlic consumption; but I also can't imagine an Itralian not eating garlic!

We will pretend that you didn't use the words Amish and Amazon in the same sentence.

You may, at your discretion, do pennance by walking on your knees on cobblestones until you see the errors of your ways.

A dose of reality though shows that Amazon will be that city sized mega store in Idiocracy where you won't be able to get anything anywhere else soon.

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Nanc's avatar

LOL 😂 I did say I was going to hell……..on the Amazon thing.

Don’t know Chris Tucker but I love Jackie Chan!

Oh, sorry about the clove confusion, never had bad clove, cloves.

The stinky rose I believe has always been garlic at least in my circles.

Any growing tips would be appreciated.

And thank you for not marrying a garlicphobic, Italian, lol 😂.

Now I’m off to the cobblestones for repentance.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I was poisoned by arsenic in industry. So the remedy formulated in Japan was the use of S-allyl-sulfate found in garlic. The highest amount is in Siberian garlic that just happens to make bulbils on top so that it literally re-seeds itself. Because I'm in the middle of Pharm Whore Hell I can't grow large garlic due to the pesticide overspray, but if you babied it you could probably get some medium size heads on them. It is the best tasting hard-neck (my favorite) garlic that I've had. Legend is that they need a lot of nitrogen fertilizer because the cloves are not what you think they are.

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Yikes, I’m sorry to hear of your poisoning. Who knew garlic could reverse that? But then again, what can’t this stinky rose do?

Siberian garlic, huh, I’m going to look into that. I too love the hard neck variety.

As for growing thanks for the tips. I too live in Chemtrails alley. Absolutely nothing thrived this year, no herbs, peppers, tomatoes, melons, nothing! Which is why I’m wondering should I even bother planting outside anymore?

My indoor herbs, lettuces, peppers and strawberries are doing fine, that is as long as the damn cats stop eating my veggies.

I just had “Lucy” satans cat, literally mow down an entire tray of micro greens! Argh 😠!

Yea, my daughter knew exactly what she was doing when she dumped this crazy cat on me.

Guess I’m going to have to raise her Catamony.

Just curious, if the cloves are not what I think they are, then what are they? Now I’m getting worried, lol 😂.

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Gwyneth's avatar

Homeric!

Two more ways to get stoned - be condemned as a Witch or a Loose Woman.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

That too a day!

I KNEW I could count on you for what was screaming inside my head that SOMEBODY needed to post.

I've been looking for a woman-on-the-loose.

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Gwyneth's avatar

Sorry, I'm still unavailable.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

that's the message that I get on Amazon all the time!

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Gwyneth's avatar

But I am not selling anything:)

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Libertarian's avatar

Just avoid the women that are both on the same night.

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Gwyneth's avatar

Just browsing on a few choice bits in your thesis and thought you might find these of interest.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33670236/

Effect of Hydrolysable Tannins and Anthocyanins on Recurrent Urinary Tract Infections in Nephropathic Patients: Preliminary Data

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2212429220310890

Tannins as an alternative to antibiotics

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

What a beautiful..... brain you have!

The notion of tannins was resonating in my head (along with tinnitus and those annoying voices) whilst I was composing my thesis (I wore a diaper) but I have been so sleep depraved... deprived that I lacked the capacity to expore this as a side bar, candy bar, or wet bar.

It is a VERY important topic because of its biological significance but also because:

THEY HAVE SO DAMAGED US THAT DECADES AGO PEOPLE WERE CLAIMING SEVERE SENSITIVITIES TO THE FAMILY OF PHENOLS THAT INCLUDE TANNINS AND SALICYLATES that I knew there was some kind of medical epidemic going on.

It has been well known that tannins were antimicrobial.

A main acition of black walnut tincture is the tannins that obliterate single celled parasites.

But if you can't tolerate the tannins then you are in a World Of Hurt (not John Hurt).

Then - and now I know I have to turn this thread into a follow-up Stack - we throw in that premiere cause of kidney stones: DEHYDRATION and we get the Double-Whammy burger of something that might help with Iron being used as a food source, fatty acid synthesis inside the Buggers (so as not to be confused with boogers but both can be up your nose), QUORUM SENSING (din't see THAT one coming), microbial cell disruption, epigenetic switching for turning off biofilm production, manufacturing glue to stick to your cells, probably flagella coding which goes back to the quorum-sensing that leads to swarming, and toxin production. But the last one should be of huge interest to the Germ Theorists and the Terrain Theorists because this undefined trait (it's behind a paywall) of toxin inhibition is not defined in the abstract as to whether they are endotoxins or exotoxins the latter (where DID I put my ladder?) of witch might be caused by BACTERIOPHAGES. That leaves us with serious consideration if tannins interfere with VIRUSES or just whatever they are doing to the DNA inside their host.

Of concern though... was this quote of the madmen in white smocks:

"tannin-loaded nanoparticles/hydrogels show good antibacterial effects"

PUT THE HYDROGEL DOWN AND STEP AWAY FROM THE LAB TABLE OR WE WILL HAVE TO SHOOT!

These freaks just couldn't say:

Eat Walnuts with that bitter nasty brown stuff on them and you'll be OK...

thanks for this stimulating conversation, I got a tiny bit of sleep (massive nightmares not even fit to recount) before arising (can't really call it awakening) to you comment.

See you in the Stack.

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Libertarian's avatar

She is really articulate and intelligent. You could even say she is a Renaissance woman with many parts and above average empathy for others.

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She is really articulate and intelligent. You could even say she is a Renaissance woman with many parts and above average empathy for others.

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A ward over the ahead wyrd snow storm so whom it wisch can plow through and find a stoned cairn of medical symptoms made be where the end in be done..

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This your post is as a collossal as a monumental read Were(-Ooluf) where one can lay hands on.... I save my pain (not french bread!) of brain (not bran) of how the wonderous al-in-word-anian the gelatinous depraved Patron Jordan-not-ian could pull through in a such massive text since me reading it made my brain and eyes massively occupied to such extent (can we make the sentence of this sentence longer please - Gud vad enkelt det är att skriva lpngt till morgonkaffet med 👹 på vänstra axeln och 😇 på högra diton!) that when partially skimming some text portions my thumb ferverly tried to match up with my intellect to plow through this massive winter snow word storm percipitation of a minimun 3 feet of a snow layer on a 10 mile patch of roadside stretch passing through a georgeous intellectioscape of wonderously interesting proportions.. Where is 'da-t punch line!!!!?

I do recognize "something Viking or such" in me* making my almost opposit life path vs not-al-jin-word-anian have grown up with since eye from my parts grew up (C' n) as a lacto-vegetarian-leanings steering off course compassing chang in life pointing towards there are possible health and life style benefits from a natural indigenous farmers omnivore genes diet including eating your farm animals et al.. - I do listen quite a bit to those other geniouses out (there) outt'a in their own rite heard but culling towards their attention Sir-ly will be leaving pat-the-shoulder-on-the-genious-Pat a flowery blossom of alergic rash all over his body him rightfully keeping to his stream of genious of outta the fresh truely educated wisdom torrents him tribute freely US.. .. dang "Dr Daniels" will have so many suggestion (of non medical ad vice) eating from animals the part where in you ailing symptoms is pound-pounding from..

Me growing up just "plant-bland-bound" going Pat's opposite course from just plants (mostly) to our purported oroginal narurally designed omnivoreous dietary configuration me still and yet (not Jet) having a true feeling for caring as a farmer-king over my farm animal heard**..

Dr Daniels suggests autism (eat cow brain) fibromyalgia/severe chronic pain (eat gelatinous pig ears or the such), arthritis/diabetes and more: bettered from with variius gist-guest-gested (ingestion of) carnivore heard animal cuts on of the not-Jack-Daniels oft command-commended gist-gest's from (former-formed-living) is eat the liver are among one of her often occuring - her no 1 suggestion though is clean water - after that a balanced diet where the unbalances oft are animal organs as the one you suffer witin your ser/l-f..

** (well heared of in my circles of customers eat'in me friend as being of that rare delicacy old syle true meat standards meet as in fat inclusions of high degree in the meat steaks produce et gourmet et al asked for in luxury restaurants)

* (likely it is even pre-Viking genes with a high dose of true-Norse "Vanir"-farmer-man genome traits prior to the "Aesir" Asian "Schytian snob horsemen despizing farmers" invasion to "rule our lands in" the warrior Aeisir snobs just aiming for "Lordship over the stubborn homestead lifestyle community's".

I do farmers-king-cong"-care even as so eye care also still eat the animal friends I do care to care.. .. from it parasitology (and zoonozeology) are a frequent topic of come from cern formed in me..

Lung flukes being (visually from organ recovers from the nice man with the knife gave me meat organ organized (from behind) me back from last harvest) have me in the pied occio-ped-pie'ed..

The truly wicked on the stampeed gave some pebbles brushing up in the shrub-brush-o-para-sitgsite-situs-critters o' trematodes and filiaronematodes..

I know Pat will fear me have "Norse malaria" (those small blood stream larvas - what's their name again) but all para situs in site is situs ti-ation-worthy my curious (unhooked) nose..

Thus a pebbled stone alike a Thing stone occured as a "fluke" researching flukes/trematodes..

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***"Liver fluke infections cause serious medical and veterinary diseases. Fasciolosis of sheep, goats and cattle, is the major cause of economic losses in dairy and meat industry.[5] Fasciolosis of humans produces clinical symptoms such as fever, nausea, swollen liver, extreme abdominal pain, jaundice and anemia.[6]

Clonorchiasis and opisthorchiasis (due to Opisthorchis viverrini) are particularly dangerous. They can survive for several decades in humans causing chronic inflammation of the bile ducts, epithelial hyperplasia, periductal fibrosis and bile duct dilatation. In many infections these symptoms cause further complications such as stone formation, recurrent pyogenic cholangitis and cancer (cholangiocarcinoma).[7] Opisthorchiasis is the leading cause of cholangiocarcinoma in Thailand and Laos.[8] Clonorchis sinensis and Opisthorchis viverrini are both categorized by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as Group 1 carcinogens.[9][10]"

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***https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_fluke

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Listen to my archeo-genetico-feno-omic branch of the heralds Skaldr" s tree (Yggdrasil) without a tear of awe;

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtT3UyhibQ&pp=ygUMSm9ubmEga3VsaW5n

Thing (assembly): means = "ordinary day (things) by ordinary sapiens gathered in lawful moral assembly to sort the (disputed) things amongs them to (socially sort out via) manners of how to mannerismally manaherially it rethink (re-sapient/sapience!?)..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_(assembly)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Scone

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stones_of_Mora

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_stone

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_circle_(Iron_Age)

https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domarring

alesstenar.com

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menhir

(men hir/heir /like in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heirloom)

We say ba u ta stone (point of compass court yard for celestial eternal alignment fixation thus "holding cpurt" is the "man with the axe spliting time/leading time/time law follows ban/the celestial sky cycles)

https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsahallens_h%C3%A4llristningsomr%C3%A5de

(my forfathers locally around east Scania+Bornholm)

(https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madsebakke_h%C3%A4llristningsomr%C3%A5de#/languages)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go%C3%ADdel_Glas

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