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artermix's avatar

Perhaps putting in perspective exactly what "suffering" is would help a lot more readers

We live in times where people think that having to choose between Donkey Doughnuts and Starbuck is suffering......

I meant dunking......

Or that suffering is going on a diet to loose weight......or suffering is not being able to take a shower on a daily basis.....or walking from the farthest parking space to the store entrance......or ohhh......jeesh I have to make dinner!!!

Suffering to me is different than someone else ....

To me birthing a child and then seen destroying his/her own life is a hell of suffering.

Or being forced to accept we are in hell is beyond suffering ....is there a thing beyond suffering??

Seen death of a person with care for, preceeded by their own agony is suffering. Make it double suffering.

Again not everyone is exposed to the same level or intensity of suffering thus weak mind stressors can effect someone more than high stressors.

This can become also a philosophical quest.

The people you are talking about....those who vomit new age words as you said.....often have had a very VERY priviledged life too.....with little or zero suffering (according to my meaning of suffering).

Physical pain inflicted by external factors IS SUFFERING across the board for most. Unless of course .....you are a fan of BDSM.

This is why we ....WE CREATED WARS that come with complementary, after math consequences. We still have 500 years old ruins from the 1943-1945 air rides in my hometown.

Just saying.

Pardon me.....but coming from Europe devastated by two WW caused by the country who wants to gift democracy to everyone.....well I say that the citizens of said country also have seen suffering from a narrower angle.....

Heck the southern states are still suffering trauma from the 1865 conflict.

But do not despair because their masters have applied a different methodology of suffering. You say externally caused suffering? Yes but lets make it a bit hidden.....so that those who suffers feel it is their fault and the system comes out clean....of.....SIN.

Also lets do not confuse "suffering" and place it in the mix of discipline.

Being an athlete I do see this yet under a different angle. My suffering to others it is only training for me necessary to obtain a certain level of ability.....some people might see you working on farm land attempting to grow food as suffering. I am sure it is for many. Yet the perception of yoyr suffering say not being able to grow a dang thing in the past years is not their perception...why would you want to work outdoor with a hoe, showel and under 90F sun or in the cold?

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

I'm not here to learn a lesson... Just passing thru & trying to get the f*** OUT without having to do a do-over. What you reap is what you sew.

We don't fight to live another day ...

We LIVE to FIGHT another day.

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