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Karafree's avatar

you control more than the people... you control LIFE... all LIVING BEINGS...

this summer the HOA demanded that all weeds were KILLED by Round up in a certain neighborhood in a certain town, in a certain western US state. The owners of one residence in this little specific location said absolutely fucking NOT. They were given another option.. to go out and pull all the BENEFICIAL plants classified by the fucking idiots as weeds. They said 'FINE' we will pull the weeds... a week went by and the weeds weren't pulled. So the gestapo of lawn care was called in and the entire yard was sprayed with Round up... a notice was delivered to the residence exclaiming victory,,, You didn't do it so we took care of it.

Today one of their dogs was diagnosed with Stage one Kidney diseases... see a dog puts his nose and his mouth to the ground to navigate and tell him everything about the environment... not to mention that he goes barefoot or bare pawed... then when he comes in sometimes he even licks his paws...

WE are so focused on the what it's doing to PEOPLE... WTF! ALL LIFE IS AT "STEAK"!!!!

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

Now you get it .... complete biocide! Nothing biological will survive what they have planned. Crap, That sounds snarky...Sorry.

Synthetic everything & stored data streams of consciousness in the "cloud" . The "weeds" are most likely edible & forgeable FOOD. Lawn "care" should be a CRIME!

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Karafree's avatar

I've always got it..

I have always been aware of the absolute assault on LIFE.

But the thing is if we are going to entertain the idea that we are in a simulation then we have to KNOW, cognize, explain, define,, I don't have the right word, because each of those are word spells... regardless we have to know what LIFE really IS...

We don't know shit until we KNOW the truth about who or what we are..

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

I hear you girlfriend ... sometimes the bullshit just gets to be too much & Every other potential reality just feels like it COULD be better. Like you said, we don't KNOW shit. It's ALL simulation speculations. .... What to do when "reality" slaps ya upside the noggin??

Is it an assault on life ... OR is it just an experiment that we gleefully awaken up from?

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

ya'll are playing with the concept of Total Recall.

But at the end of the induced dreamstate when they 'woke up' the outside viewer couldn't tell if they had ever left the SIM.

Written by Phillip K. Dick the CIA asset so they were signalling something there.

This concept was explored in the short series by Chris Carter Harsh Realm before the Matrix ever came out.

If we are in pods then hallucinogens would explain the 'nightmares' that I have when I go 'offline'.

It begs the question of how you would gauge 'reality' if you were confronted it when our 'perceptions' are merely electrical impulses in our 'brains' -

OR SO WE'VE BEEN TOLD !

How does anyone KNOW that?

What is it that you or anyone else can say that they TRULY KNOW that was not given to them by external hostile sources?

These questions, however, are ANCIENT (only if we accept their timelines):

A monk fell asleep under a tree and dreamed that he was a butterfly flying around the forest.

When he awoke he was unsure if he was a man who just dreamed he was a butterfly or a butterfly now dreaming that it was a man.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

A dream within a dream........ Nightmare within a nightmare ..... Worst part is that We just don't KNOW.

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Karafree's avatar

are all LIVING beings in pods? Is every living being, including the plant that speaks to another plant living in a pod? are we all just peas in a pod?

what needs to be answered in the first place is WHAT IS LIFE?

WHAT IS ALIVE? Id LIFE real, is LIEf REEL?

What is the difference between YOU and a cartoon character?

both are animated! both moving, both blah blah blabbing about perceptions that are merely electrical impulses in a "brain"

edit.. I don't mean YOU as anyone specifically I mean any of us all of us.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

The Irony about being peas in a pod ...Is that they are FOOD!

The difference between a cartoon character & US is that WE have a chakra & sensory system

ALL good points!.

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artermix's avatar

or none of them…..because that is the meaning of the movie the matrix. But most missed that part.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

In the 1950s Jose Delgado inserted wires into people's brains.

He could make them go into a rage, or slap them in the face after turning off ALL AFFECT with no effect whatsoever.

The chapter in his book was called Heaven and Hell is in the Mind.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Teresa said that she asked the 'lawn care' guy what he was spraying on a certain property and he told it was DICAMBA.

That shit is a DRUG OF LAST RESORT. It can translocate by thermal inversion and come down on any other property and kill everything that it touches.

Obviously not fit for children or pets yet no one knows or cares.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

I just figure it's ALL poison. If THEY push it...don't use it. It's always a byproduct of some poisonous bullshit they couldn't just simply spill someplace else.

Not fit for LIFE forms of any kind! & IT SPREADS!

Have you noticed that compost isn't composting like it SHOULD? The little bugs just aren't there to do their job. ... or aren't capable? I have 2 year old compost that hasn't rotted properly.

I'm about to pour some Old Milwaukee on it in spring to see IF that helps.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I was told that beer is brewed and then stopped at multiple steps in the process with antibiotics that end up in the final slurry.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

oh no, I've used crap beer off & on for a good decade... go figure. Maybe I wrecked my compost station.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

don't worry, it was ruined well before you ever had at it...

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

"Say it like it is - then there is no debate." Patrick Jordan.

What you described is: Chemical wharf air waged by hostile enemies.

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artermix's avatar

I am so upset reading this…..about the dog…..my neighbour still uses fucking roundup. I told them many times…..please throw it away.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

What's worse...old school original twinkies that never die or todays GMO's avocado or lemon?

You make this hellscape so much more better ....or bitter sweet.

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Amaterasu Solar's avatar

You'd think more People would be motivated to solve for the psychopaths in control....

Solving for Psychopaths in Control (article): https://amaterasusolar.substack.com/p/solving-for-psychopaths-in-control

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artermix's avatar

no because people are lazy….or the footshock experiment….or both.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

All of The Above.

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Amaterasu Solar's avatar

Or just severely indoctrinated from birth...

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Gwyneth's avatar

Albert Einstein once said: ” Reality is merely an illusion, although a very persistent one.”

I am all in for a parallel universe.

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Libertarian's avatar

Beam me up when you get there.

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Gwyneth's avatar

I don't know if you are aware of this, but it's a slow ongoing beam up. You are definitely on your way.

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Libertarian's avatar

So sorry to read about your wonderful bees and the last few years in general. Any suggestions on what best to grow in a greenhouse?

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

This is where they have us by the short hairs.

Society is based on Division of Labor.

Nothing inherently wrong with it because being totally self-sufficient is nearly impossible, and if possible is an over-full-time endeavor.

So, the most important things in the plant world to sustain oneself (Man cannot live on tomatoes alone) would be grains and legumes that give energy and a complete protein. However, the amount of land and effort to do something like that is best 'farmed' out to someone who specializes in it and then you can focus on the other crops that require less volume and effort. Green peas on trellises are the only compromise.

Those are the foundations though. I would say good luck to growing rice anywhere in north america unless you have a hydroponics section in your greenhouse.

Buckwheat grew but not well out here in Illinois but then there's the risk for some people of high oxalates. It's not even a grain but it can sustain your needs. I grew amaranth but again the need for space and processing is insane.

The important vegetables are NOT the nightshade family that come with such horrors as to fill a Stack. Kale (never eat it raw or put it in ridiculous smoothies) is the most minerally complete green there is. If you grow it in cool weather with plenty of lime (calcium) it even tastes sweet.

Beets are medicine. Okra is one of the most drought resistant plants on the planet if you like eating green slime. Squash is healthy and fast and abundant in the summer variety and storable and energy loaded in the winter variety AND you can roast the seeds.

Garlic and onions can be grown in close quarters to save space and are medicine as well.

Oregano and thyme are perennials and medicine.

Asparagus is a perennial that has the ability to produce for 100 years.

Cucumbers are medicine and can be grown on trellises as well with some other crop below them to save soil and physical space.

There are many more useful vegetables but that would be limited by space and personal taste.

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Libertarian's avatar

What an awesome response and list!! I will get busy with implementation of the smaller footprint plants and let you know it works. Thanks very much, Patrick. And thank you for what you do.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

You're welcome.

The ancient mexicans grew corn, runner beans, and squash all in the same patch. The beans would fix nitrogen for the corn and then crawl up the corn stalks. The vines would spread out across the ground to preserve moisture. Think in levels.

Think in succession of crops for annuals.

Tomatoes and peppers are tropical plants that are perennials but the idea of them is sold as annuals to boost sales. Legend is that a woman in the southwest has a pepper TREE that is 15 years old and about as tall as she is that is wheeled indoors with a handcart only if there s a threat of a freeze. I don't advocate eating tomatoes, however, they can grow to 18-foot tall trees in the tropics with woody stems.

Broccoli and cabbage and kale are biennials which means they will grow for two years before putting off seed. When my SIBERIAN KALE would over winter (I like all things russian due to their hardiness) I was NEVER at a loss for my own seed.

I would encourage you to grow everything you need from seed then take cuttings to clone more plants than buying plants commercially because you will no doubt get greenhouse infestations of whatever they had in their house.

Before even planting I would get a boatload of ladybugs to insure aphid control.

Rainwater is NOT good for greenhouse plants.

ALL of the chemtrail poisons and radiation will be concentrated in your beds.

Tap water can't be used without a chlorine filter or you will sterilize your soil and that might not be easily remediated.

Commercial phosphate fertilizer is EXTREMELY radioactive.

You can use wood ashes for potassium.

Nitrogen is tricky but I got away for over 40 years without using it by growing a lot of peas and beans.

Blood meal is insane. Mad Cow and godnose what else.

Trace minerals are very important for plant health.

I would NEVER put fish meal on a garden because if tropical fish with ciguattera toxin is in there it can't be remediated.

NEVER use bone meal unless you want mad cow disease.

Calcium in the form of the cheapest lime you can get at the garden center is excellent to make most of your plants taste like pure sugar.

Starting your beds you might put a few sprinkles of borax way down at root level to help with fungus control and feeding the plants boron. In the wild when boron gets to the subsoil it is usually taken out of commission.

AGGRESSIVE rodent control or mice might make you weep like a baby.

I was never able to sustain earthworms with indoor potted plants but if you can get them going in the beds themselves then you can mimic the outdoor ecosystem.

I don't get along with bees in enclosed spaces so I would look into what can be used for pollination other than airflow.

Keep us posted on your progress.

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Libertarian's avatar

Fantastic information! I am on it and will start ordering items you recommended. You already corrected my plan to order rooted plants; will go with seeds now. I’m excited about being part of the revolution. Thanks, Patrick!

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Let me get a little more specific.

Plants grown in a greenhouse before you put them in your greenhouse presents a risk of the common pests of whitefly and aphids that can overrun and drive you nuts.

I would be less restrictive on something like mature asparagus roots because they take so long to establish before you can harvest the food without harming the plant. As long as you wash the roots before planting you can minimize any imported nasty.

Asparagus can be grown from seed, it just takes longer.

Established old roots for sale by reputable nurseries are certified for disease free conditions and you can make a light cutting the first year just to encourage growth but not stunt the plant and then by the third year they are in full production.

The whole market of buying plants to put in the garden is to get a head start on the season and try to avoid insects and hot summers for things like broccoli, cabbage, etc. Otherwise there is no reason in a greenhouse because YOU dictate what the seasons are. You can have multiple crops of annual plants that don't all need to be harvested at the same time.

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Libertarian's avatar

Understood; thank-you. I will experiment with both roots and seeds because I am teaching granddaughter some of your principles (as best I understand them)

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artermix's avatar

I am laughing at …..IF YOU LIKE EATING GREEN SLIME…..I bet that slime cam be used for something else. Maybe….

Beets must be organic or they are crap. I never eat them actually. I cannot recall if they are on my blood type diet either.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

I am a Green Slime Eater.

Urban legend is that if you soak the slime out of uncooked okra and drink it that it can fix diabetes.

Night and day difference between home-grown organics and the GMOnsters in the store.

Fermented beets are beyond words.

Beets are neutral for Type A, while beet tops are Highly Beneficial, however, I could NEVER eat beet tops or chard due to the insane amounts of oxalates in them. D'Adamo published long before the oxalate crisis hit.

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